[Imports] [osm-pl] Fwd: Re: Import of addresses in Poland

Tomasz Kędziora kendzi at gmail.com
Tue Feb 4 20:28:57 UTC 2014

Dear Frederik Ramm and Imports Community,

I would love to see address data for Gmina Babimos[1] inside OpenStreetMap.
As you can easily check I'm the only one community member in near
neighborhood. I'm really not interested in putting that address data
manually into database, especially when they could be imported. I would
like to avoid doing it myself, mostly because it involve reading long and
not so interesting import guidelines, only for one import. Additionally I
don't thing that first import could be made correctly and end without the

So if you don't have any objections I would like to ask Zbigniew to made
that import with 100% support from local community.

Tomek Kędziora
user: kendzi

[1] - http://babimost.e-mapa.net/

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:

> forgot to Cc talk-pl, sorry.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Imports] Import of addresses in Poland
> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 20:35:07 +0100
> From: Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
> To: imports at openstreetmap.org
> Hi,
> On 04.02.2014 17:40, Zbigniew Czernik wrote:
> > I think it's pointless to send information about the import of addresses
> > in each municipality as a separate post. I think it's a good idea to
> > create a thread where I will put the information about the planned
> imports.
> I think we should maybe have a more fundamental discussion about these
> imports.
> As you probably know, OSM doesn't value data over community. Where
> imports are concerned, we usually look at whether there's a local
> community to "digest" the data that has been imported, to fix it where
> it's wrong, to update it in the future.
> Importing data "instead" of having a community is not something we
> normally do ("there's nobody there to map anything anyway so in order to
> make the map more useful let's at least import data").
> This is also the reason we prefer "community imports" where perhaps one
> person or a small group of people prepares data for import, but the
> actual import is done by people local to the area, who know the place
> and know what they're doing.
> What I'm seeing here is one single person importing huge amounts of data
> for one city after the next, all over Poland.
> Have *you* cross-checked that data? Have you even *been* to the places
> you are importing data for? Or, if that's not the case, is there a local
> community in the places you are importing data for - someone who says
> "dear Zbigniew, could you import this data for me so that I can do a
> better job of mapping in my city"?
> If this is not the case, then I think you should stop importing data.
> Has this been discussed in the Polish community?
> Bye
> Frederik
> --
> Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frederik at remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
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