[Imports] Import of bus stops for Wallonia, Belgium

[Simon Poole]

Am 19.06.2014 09:28, schrieb Jo:
> Since it was the intent of this transport company to open their data
> under a free license, I'm in the process of asking them to give
> Openstreetmap explicit permission to redistribute their data under
> ODBL, which should clear that hurdle. I wasn't aware it's just a
> matter of time before CC-BY-SA becomes compatible with ODBL.
I didn't mention a time frame and I doubt anybody would commit to one
right now, so just consider that as extra information. Explicit
permission is naturally ok.

>
> That conversation is conducted in French, of course, since that is
> what people speak in the southern part of Belgium. If they are
> favourable to the idea, where do I document/upload this permission?

IMHO French is completely fine as a language to document the permission
in. While I would like to say that using the local language is always
OK, from a practical pov it has to be in something a larger part of the
community has a fighting chance of reviewing it in and not just via
google translate, so I would limit that to the major European languages
right now.  We (as in OSMF) don't have any kind of store for original
documents at this point of time, so uploading a copy to the wiki and
linking to it from the import page,  

>
> Anyway I'm a technical guy. I did my part by clearing the
> path,performing the conversion of the data so it becomes suitable for
> import into OSM.
>
> I'll keep you informed how the talks with our contact progress.
>
> So do you see other problems with the import?

I'm not about to get involved in discussion on specific imports (I
suppose I just did :-)), there is however a large body of experience in
importing public transport stops and I would suggest that you talk to
those people too (for example
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Switzerland/DIDOK ).

Simon
>
> Jo
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> 2014-06-18 23:38 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole <simon at osmfoundation.org
> <mailto:simon at osmfoundation.org>>:
>
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>     It  is not quite so simple. CC could declare the ODbL a compatible
>     licence. Work is under way on that, BUT it hasn't happened yet. With
>     other words: the import cannot happen as this point in time and will
>     have to wait.
>
>     Simon
>
>     Am 18.06.2014 22:28, schrieb Dan S:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > I'm sorry to bear bad news, but the "sharealike" aspect of CC-BY-SA
>     > 4.0 means that you cannot import the data into OSM, since
>     CC-BY-SA 4.0
>     > data can be publicly adapted only under ___the same___ licence (i.e.
>     > not under OSM's ODbL licence) - or, more accurately, it must be
>     > publicly reused one of the licences listed in the first section of
>     > this page:
>     > https://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses
>     >
>     > Dan
>     >
>     >
>     > 2014-06-18 22:10 GMT+02:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com
>     <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>>:
>     >> The public transport company of Wallonia in Belgium released
>     their data
>     >> under a CC-BY-SA 4.0 license.
>     >>
>     >> The plan for importing the stops (and routes in a second stage) in
>     >> Openstreetmap is described here:
>     >>
>     >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PT_TEC_Wallonie_BE_Import
>     >>
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