[Imports] Import of bus stops for Wallonia, Belgium

[Jo]

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Please advise if you see other problems with the proposal.

Jo


2014-06-19 10:45 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole <simon at osmfoundation.org>:

>  Am 19.06.2014 09:28, schrieb Jo:
>
>   Since it was the intent of this transport company to open their data
> under a free license, I'm in the process of asking them to give
> Openstreetmap explicit permission to redistribute their data under ODBL,
> which should clear that hurdle. I wasn't aware it's just a matter of time
> before CC-BY-SA becomes compatible with ODBL.
>
> I didn't mention a time frame and I doubt anybody would commit to one
> right now, so just consider that as extra information. Explicit permission
> is naturally ok.
>
>
>
> That conversation is conducted in French, of course, since that is what
> people speak in the southern part of Belgium. If they are favourable to the
> idea, where do I document/upload this permission?
>
>
> IMHO French is completely fine as a language to document the permission
> in. While I would like to say that using the local language is always OK,
> from a practical pov it has to be in something a larger part of the
> community has a fighting chance of reviewing it in and not just via google
> translate, so I would limit that to the major European languages right
> now.  We (as in OSMF) don't have any kind of store for original documents
> at this point of time, so uploading a copy to the wiki and linking to it
> from the import page,
>
>
>  Anyway I'm a technical guy. I did my part by clearing the path,performing
> the conversion of the data so it becomes suitable for import into OSM.
>
>  I'll keep you informed how the talks with our contact progress.
>
>  So do you see other problems with the import?
>
>
> I'm not about to get involved in discussion on specific imports (I suppose
> I just did :-)), there is however a large body of experience in importing
> public transport stops and I would suggest that you talk to those people
> too (for example http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Switzerland/DIDOK
> ).
>
> Simon
>
>
>  Jo
>
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>  2014-06-18 23:38 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole <simon at osmfoundation.org>:
>
>>
>> It  is not quite so simple. CC could declare the ODbL a compatible
>> licence. Work is under way on that, BUT it hasn't happened yet. With
>> other words: the import cannot happen as this point in time and will
>> have to wait.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> Am 18.06.2014 22:28, schrieb Dan S:
>>  > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm sorry to bear bad news, but the "sharealike" aspect of CC-BY-SA
>> > 4.0 means that you cannot import the data into OSM, since CC-BY-SA 4.0
>> > data can be publicly adapted only under ___the same___ licence (i.e.
>> > not under OSM's ODbL licence) - or, more accurately, it must be
>> > publicly reused one of the licences listed in the first section of
>> > this page:
>> > https://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-06-18 22:10 GMT+02:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>:
>> >> The public transport company of Wallonia in Belgium released their data
>> >> under a CC-BY-SA 4.0 license.
>> >>
>> >> The plan for importing the stops (and routes in a second stage) in
>> >> Openstreetmap is described here:
>> >>
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PT_TEC_Wallonie_BE_Import
>> >>
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