[Imports] Import stop signs for blind persons in Katowice, Poland

[Rafael Avila Coya]

Hi, Łukasz:

I don't know what happens with the [5] link. But it opens without 
problem to me. Maybe you can try through the arquived mail here:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2020-August/006353.html

Cheers,

Rafael.

O 29/08/20 ás 19:53, Łukasz Taraszka escribiu:
> Hello Rafael,
> 
> Thanks for your response.
> 
> I know the standards described on mentioned wiki pages.
> 
>     The opinion of companies, as well as the opinion of anyone else
>     (individuals, organizations, etc.), is always welcome in OpenStreetMap,
>     but we should not adjust our tagging schema to the needs of different
>     companies, because they aren't the only ones interested in using the
>     data. We map the reality the best we can, but we can't map for the
>     different data consumers, because they will have in general different
>     needs that we can't accommodate.
> 
> 
> And
> 
>     According to you, they say "if there will be a standard accepted by the
>     OSM community they would do this and that". But there is actually a
>     standard accepted by the community, that is what you read in the already
>     mentioned Public transport and other wikis. With lots of discussions,
>     and new proposals, yes, but we have and we follow those wikis to map
>     public transport everywhere around the world, and quite well in my
>     honest opinion.
> 
> 
> I totally agree with that. I proposed two new tags and I'm not going to 
> change existing standards.
> I proposed stop_id and stop_no as placeholders which could be replaced 
> with something that is more relevant to this situation.
> Probably gtfs_id and local_ref as was suggested on Polish forum.
> My goal is to find a middle ground between OSM community standards and 
> the companies which are delivering systems for blinds for years.
> Both sides have their standards.
> 
>     Apart from the tagging mailing list, I would suggest you first to
>     contact your local Polish osm community, for example through the talk-pl
>     mailing list [6]. I am sure they will be very glad to discuss with you
>     about mapping all those objects for Katowice and other areas, so
>     valuable for disabled people.
> 
> 
> It's already there.
> 
>     For example, in one of the
> 
>     tram stops examples of yours [5], we would have the following tags:
> 
> 
> I wasn't able to check that because link [5] is pointing to an incorrect 
> location. Could you please send me the correct example?
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Taraszka Łukasz
> 
> czw., 27 sie 2020 o 17:01 Mateusz Konieczny via Imports 
> <imports at openstreetmap.org <mailto:imports at openstreetmap.org>> napisał(a):
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     27 Aug 2020, 16:38 by ravilacoya at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>:
> 
>         Apart from the tagging mailing list, I would suggest you first
>         to contact your local Polish osm community, for example through
>         the talk-pl mailing list [6]. I am sure they will be very glad
>         to discuss with you about mapping all those objects for Katowice
>         and other areas, so valuable for disabled people.
> 
>     There was already contact (through
>     OSM forum, Polish community is not
>     using mailing list), and this reminds me that
>     I should reply also there
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