[Imports] Fwd: Import of pharmacies in Catalunya, Spain.

[Jose Luis Infante]

Hi Frederik,

please allow me to introduce myself. I'm the user jlinfante_import. I use
this account to contribute in the Catastro import tasks and others, but my
main account is https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jose%20Luis%20Infante .
I'm here from 2009 and not an armchair editor, as you can see at
http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Jose%20Luis%20Infante (20% Vespucci and 22%
StreetComplete). I'm an active member of the catalan and spanish community
(we use mainly Telegram groups, as Andy Townsend knows - check Verdy_p
editions in Spain), and I habitually review the editions in Catalonia (with
OSMCha). Also I'm taking part in the spanish accessibility group. The OSM
Catalan Community has 165 members in its Telegram group.

Yes, I'm the main contributor at this project (import of pharmacies), but
only in the number of tasks. Most of them don't have any data, and I
completed them with that comment, like
https://tareas.openstreetmap.es/project/157#task/318 . Others contributors
are a teacher from the Polytechnic University of Catalonia, a member of the
Cartographic and Geological Institute of Catalonia (map authority in
Catalonia),...

About this issue, I'm personally subscribe Lanxana's comments. Also, we
(the catalan community, and also the spanish community) are discussing
about this mail thread.

Maybe nobody dies if this data is not in OSM. But this is not a parody.
People here are very sensitive to this issue, and they want to contribute
adding useful data to OSM as many of them do with HOT. Maybe our users should
do nothing about.

Bye
Jose Luis

El lun., 16 mar. 2020 a las 18:41, Lanxana . (<lanxanae at gmail.com>)
escribió:

>
> Hi, sorry by the delay,
>
> About the 3rd point (…the reused information is not altered or the meaning
> is distorted…), what do we understand by alter the data? Change the name of
> a stret from capital letter to a small letter? Complete an abbreviation?
> Adjust the location of a point, from the middle of a junction to the
> building where it’s located? Or change a pharmacy to a supermarket?
>
> In the first cases, yes, they are the changes that we have contemplated
> for the data. The last case, no, and it is what we understand refers to the
> prohibition.
>
> About the 1st point (The reuse of public information is free and not
> subject to restrictions, except in the cases in which, by regulatory means,
> it is subject to obtaining a Creative Commons recognition license, due to
> the protection of other rights or legal assets, or the previous request of
> the interested party). in the case of pharmacies, the owner of the data is
> the Generalitat itself, the autonomous government that distributes it on
> its open data portal. We understand that it’s not necessary to request
> another additional permission. It would be different if the Generalitat
> were distributing the data of a third party, such as the college of
> pharmacists.
>
> Finally, as the colleague comments, from the open data portal itself they
> have congratulated us for reusing their data:
> https://twitter.com/opendatacat/status/1239094637488410625
>
> “Molt bona feina @OSMcatala #farmàcies  en #dadesobertes . El portal
> http://dadesobertes.gencat.cat us permet fer un treball col.laboratiu i
> molt útil per a la societat durant aquests dies #joemquedoacasa
> #FrenarLaCorba”
>
> Translation: “Very good job @OSMcatala #farmàcies in #dadesobertes. The
> portal http://dadesobertes.gencat.cat allows you to do a collaborative
> and very useful work for society these days #joemquedoacasa #FrenarLaCorba”
>
> Where farmàcies = pharmacies // dadesobertes = open data // joemquedoacasa
> = I stay home // FrenarLaCorba = slow down the curve
>
>
>
> El lun., 16 mar. 2020 a las 16:09, Mateusz Konieczny via Imports (<
> imports at openstreetmap.org>) escribió:
>
>> While I understand why you thought that ignoring
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines was a good idea,
>> it appears that you used source on incompatible license.
>>
>> Is there a plan to revert edits using this source and get data released
>> on a compatible license?
>>
>> Or maybe automatic translation was faulty?
>>
>> Mar 15, 2020, 15:51 by imports at openstreetmap.org:
>>
>> I got email that
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ACarta_OpenStreetMap.pdf
>> is supposed to describe licensing situation of data already being
>> imported.
>>
>> I run it through automatic translate,
>>
>> "3. It must be ensured that in the reuse process the content of the
>> reused information is not altered"
>>
>> appears to be forbidding changing data what would make it incompatible
>> with ODBL.
>>
>> Is automatic translation wrong here?
>>
>> Also, point 1 mentions that parts of dataset are CC-BY licenced. Have you
>> confirmed
>> that it is not affecting pharmacy data?
>>
>> Mar 15, 2020, 15:03 by imports at openstreetmap.org:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mar 15, 2020, 10:35 by lanxanae at gmail.com:
>>
>> we have decided to start it without delay.
>>
>> What is the license of the data? Can you translate text from
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Catalunya_Pharmacies_Import#License
>> image?
>>
>>
>>
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