[OSM-legal-talk] New license: What is publication/distribution?

Peter Miller peter.miller at itoworld.com
Tue Oct 7 08:47:45 BST 2008


Thanks for adding the new use cases. To be clear the process is to first
catalogue the Use Cases and then to ensure that the new licence works with
them as far as possible, not the other way round. It will be interesting to
see if the current draft currently covers them, but is not essential.

 

The introduction paragraph of the ODBL wiki page does point to the draft
licence text; however this draft is very out of date. A later draft of the
licence with some minor changes made by a pro-bono lawyer representing the
OSMF does exist but has not been released to the community yet. There may by
now be a further draft following a scheduled meeting between Steve Coast and
a lawyer a week ago on behalf of the OSMF however I have had no information
about the outcome of that meeting. Andy Robinson indicated that information
would be available on the OSMF website 'soon' in a post on this list on the
28th Sept. 

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2008-September/001212.ht
ml

 

Can I suggest that we continue this useful discussion based on the
information already available to us and remind ourselves that this is a
process that can occur without the legal text as it is really part of the
specification phase? We can be catch-up with the legal text is due course
and the OSMF gives us more information!

 

I think we should add a clause to the brief about 'fair use' and then give
examples of when we believe this is appropriate, ie when 'non-substantial'
parts of the DB are used which may be relevant for some of the use cases.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Peter

 

 

 

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From: legal-talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
[mailto:legal-talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Kari Pihkala
Sent: 07 October 2008 08:05
To: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license: What is
publication/distribution?

 

I had a look at the Use Cases at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Data_License and most of them
are very traditional - printing a map/book, TV, DVD and a map on a web page.
What about modern use cases, mainly web-based mashups??

I added a use case for photo geotagging (ala Flickr), blog geotagging,
microblogging and wikipedia.  Also, embedding coordinates in urls and as
hCard metadata. Have a look at them. Does the new license allow these? How
should OSM be attributed?

BTW - The Open_Data_License page is referring a lot to some sections (4.4,
4.4c..) - are those sections in the new license, and where can they been
seen?

BR,
Kari




On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Peter Miller <peter.miller at itoworld.com>
wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
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> bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Simon Ward
> Sent: 07 October 2008 00:47
> To: legal-talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license: What is
> publication/distribution?
>

> On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 03:52:54PM +0100, Peter Miller wrote:
> > I have added the brief to the wiki here. Notice that I have also created
> a
> > 'Use Cases' section heading where we can add key example uses of the
> data
> > which we can use to validate the final licence.
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Data_License
>
> I'd just like to say thank you very much for this, and the discussion
> you have helped provoke so far.
>

Thanks, I am please how well the process is working. I notice some changes
to the wiki page, and that there are new words to clarify what is public and
some new use cases which is good to see.

I have gone through the wording in the brief to try to clarify and condense
the new elements. I have also moved the comment about making a million DVDs
to the Use Cases section. There is still more work needed on the Brief and
on the Use Cases but it is certainly getting there.


Peter


> Simon
> --
> A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
> simple system that works.-John Gall



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