[OSM-legal-talk] A questionable data source usage in Haiti in 2010
Simon Poole
simon at poole.ch
Sun Jul 25 12:14:05 UTC 2021
Am 25.07.2021 um 11:44 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk:
> I was thinking about 1000+ elements having it as an element tag,
> hopefully this is used where this specific permission qualified.
>
Those don't have anything to do with Haiti.
> For changesets leaving comment explaining situation may be helpful
> but would spam mappers who edited then.
>
>
> Jul 25, 2021, 11:37 by simon at poole.ch:
>
>
> Am 25.07.2021 um 11:23 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk:
>> Hmm, maybe detailing this tag to
>> source=Special Google Haiti imagery
>> would be helpful?
>
> Given that changeset tags cannot be changed after the fact, I'm
> not sure how you expect this to work outside of using a time machine.
>
> Simon
>
>>
>> I also created
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:source%3DGoogle
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:source%3DGoogle>
>> to make easier to locate this email
>>
>> Jul 25, 2021, 03:12 by mikel.maron at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mikel.maron at gmail.com>:
>>
>> We received explicit permission from Google to use the
>> imagery released in the Haiti earthquake response for editing
>> in OSM. That is documented in this mailing list post linked
>> from the wiki page
>>
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047236.html
>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047236.html>
>>
>> Mikel
>>
>> On Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:19 AM, mappinglander
>> <mappinglander at gmail.com> <mailto:mappinglander at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> There has recently been a discussion in OSM Discord about
>> source=Google tags
>> <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/source=Google%2C
>> 2010-01-21> in Haiti. The usage seems to have documented
>> at wiki
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources/Old#Google_Imagery>,
>> but seems like there isn't any explicit clauses about
>> allowing to OSM on the linked mailinglist posts, and the
>> Google page says "Use restricted to non-commercial use in
>> or related to Haitian relief efforts." Also, as that was
>> before the CC BY-SA and ODbL switch in 2012, I and other
>> users have expressed some doubts about whether we are
>> still having permission to use that source on OSM. I
>> personally haven't contacted Mikel yet, or the other
>> people involved in the discussion and approved the usage
>> on OSM.
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