[OSM-legal-talk] A questionable data source usage in Haiti in 2010

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Sun Jul 25 12:14:05 UTC 2021


Am 25.07.2021 um 11:44 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk:
> I was thinking about 1000+ elements having it as an element tag,
> hopefully this is used where this specific permission qualified.
>
Those don't have anything to do with Haiti.

> For changesets leaving comment explaining situation may be helpful
> but would spam mappers who edited then.
>
>
> Jul 25, 2021, 11:37 by simon at poole.ch:
>
>
>     Am 25.07.2021 um 11:23 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk:
>>     Hmm, maybe detailing this tag to
>>     source=Special Google Haiti imagery
>>     would be helpful?
>
>     Given that changeset tags cannot be changed after the fact, I'm
>     not sure how you expect this to work outside of using a time machine.
>
>     Simon
>
>>
>>     I also created
>>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:source%3DGoogle
>>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:source%3DGoogle>
>>     to make easier to locate this email
>>
>>     Jul 25, 2021, 03:12 by mikel.maron at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:mikel.maron at gmail.com>:
>>
>>         We received explicit permission from Google to use the
>>         imagery released in the Haiti earthquake response for editing
>>         in OSM. That is documented in this mailing list post linked
>>         from the wiki page
>>
>>         https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047236.html
>>         <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047236.html>
>>
>>         Mikel
>>
>>         On Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:19 AM, mappinglander
>>         <mappinglander at gmail.com> <mailto:mappinglander at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>             Hello,
>>             There has recently been a discussion in OSM Discord about
>>             source=Google tags
>>             <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/source=Google%2C
>>             2010-01-21> in Haiti. The usage seems to have documented
>>             at wiki
>>             <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources/Old#Google_Imagery>,
>>             but seems like there isn't any explicit clauses about
>>             allowing to OSM on the linked mailinglist posts, and the
>>             Google page says "Use restricted to non-commercial use in
>>             or related to Haitian relief efforts." Also, as that was
>>             before the CC BY-SA and ODbL switch in 2012, I and other
>>             users have expressed some doubts about whether we are
>>             still having permission to use that source on OSM. I
>>             personally haven't contacted Mikel yet, or the other
>>             people involved in the discussion and approved the usage
>>             on OSM.
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