[Local-chapters] Today's meeting

Jaak Laineste jaak at nutiteq.com
Fri Sep 4 14:57:02 BST 2009


 What about this:

1.       Every member is free to choose whether to join OSM-F (global
membership) or local chapter (local membership)

2.       Local chapters are free to make own decision of membership fees

3.       Local chapters are free to decide whether their members are OSM-F
members by default (with opt-out), or everyone has individual choice to be
OSM-F member also (opt-in).

4.       In either case, local chapters do not need to pay anything (forward
membership fees or any other general fees) to OSM-F

5.       OSM-F global membership fee can be PPP based, but it is not so
important, as long there will be cheaper local chapter available



/Jaak Laineste


From: local-chapters-bounces at openstreetmap.org
[mailto:local-chapters-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Alvin
Sent: 4. september 2009. a. 16:12
To: John Smith
Cc: local-chapters at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Local-chapters] Today's meeting


Hi guys,

I'm confused.

This recent meeting's minutes state:

*	Payment of fees  

*	Current community consensus is to go for a PPP
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity>  based system 

It's true that the original draft agreement stated before that there is a
plan to have local chapters pay OSM-F membership fees. If this will push
through, PPP was suggested as a way to make this fee not too onerous for
developing countries.

But it seems that during a meeting at SOTM, this draft agreement was said to
be problematic and so Jochen Topf rewrote most of the Local Chapters wiki
page and it appears that the consensus is that money going from the chapters
to OSM-F is not feasible due to legal issues in some countries.

So I think that the "current community consensus" is the one stated in the
"Financial" section of the wiki page:
id=331722#Financial> &oldid=331722#Financial

Is this correct?


On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM, John Smith <deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com>

I would have liked to have attended but I was sent the email about the
time late in the day and I didn't read it till the meeting was over,
and nothing was posted well ahead of time to this list. Can future
meetings be properly scheduled at least a week an advanced and
announced on this list please.

That said, I understand the desire to gain extra funding by charging
chapters memberships, I dislike this idea and is possibly not legal if
the Australian Chapter gets DGR status with the Australian Tax Office.
I'm not a lawyer/accountant but there is deffinitely clauses in the
Australian tax laws how funds can be used.

If the chapters are organisationally/functionally seperated I don't
think it's fair to imposed this kind of backdoor funding if people
only want to be a member of the local chapter.

I think it's a good idea to encourage membership of OSM-F but I don't
think this sort of thing should be mandatory it may make some people
reluctant about joining a local chapter, also this makes chapters seem
like they're local collection agencies for OSM-F.

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