[OSM-newbies] newbies Digest, Vol 95, Issue 4

[phil at trigpoint.me.uk]

On Tue Apr 14 11:10:51 2015 GMT+0100, Bogus Zaba wrote:
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> >     1. Mapping a cycle path across lock gates (john whelan)
> >     2. Re: Mapping a cycle path across lock gates (Philip Barnes)
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> > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:12:49 -0400
> > From: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
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> > Subject: [OSM-newbies] Mapping a cycle path across lock gates
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> > The local city has recommended cycle paths one of which crosses a canal via
> > the tops of the lock gates.
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> > So steps up to the top of the lock gate, and a max width of .5 meters and
> > the path varies according to which pair of the three pairs of lock gates
> > happen to be closed.  The maximum width is important as it means tricycles
> > are unable to use this route.
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> > Any suggestions on how it should be mapped?
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> > Thanks John
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> > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:30:52 +0100
> > From: Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk>
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> > Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Mapping a cycle path across lock gates
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> > On Sat, 2015-04-11 at 08:12 -0400, john whelan wrote:
> >> The local city has recommended cycle paths one of which crosses a
> >> canal via the tops of the lock gates.
> >>
> >>
> >> So steps up to the top of the lock gate, and a max width of .5 meters
> >> and the path varies according to which pair of the three pairs of lock
> >> gates happen to be closed.  The maximum width is important as it means
> >> tricycles are unable to use this route.
> >>
> >>
> >> Any suggestions on how it should be mapped?
> >>
> > That is madness, ask for a copy of the risk assessment.
> >
> > I have never come across a cyclepath doing this, but do know of a public
> > footpath that crosses a lock gate. There is a second side barrier on
> > that gate for safety reasons, but it a bit scary getting a dog over.
> >
> > I would map the section over the gates as a footway with
> > bicycle=dismount. That way routers will be deterred from using it and
> > find a more suitable route.
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> > Phil (trigpoint)
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> If you take a look at this URL:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/53.42176/-2.99341&layers=C
> 
> you will see a footpath crossing the canal by means of either of two 
> lockgates. I used to use these on a bike regularly. The lock gate bridge 
> in this case felt entirely safe and I saw many cyclists use the route. 
> The towpath should probably in fact have a bicycle=yes tag - if I recall 
> correctly there is signage for bikes here showing a route between Bootle 
> and Liverpool City Centre.
> 
> bogzab
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> Dr Bogumil N Zaba
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Where did the footbridge come from, there was no footbridge mentioned in this thread.

Phil (trigpoint ) 

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