[Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II
frederik at remote.org
Wed Dec 2 23:46:35 UTC 2009
> Do you think everyone here should have the ability to change what the
> LWG does, and if not they should have the right to write an essay on
> the email that goes out, or just you?
The LWG is a working group of the Foundation. It should work together
with the members to achieve good decisions. The decisions are ultimately
made by the members, not by the LWG. The LWG's role is that of a
catalyst in decision making - not a controlling role.
It is the right of every member to engage with the LWG about their work;
especially so when very sensitive issues are concerned or when the LWG
makes a last-minute change to plans. (I tried to point out in my last
e-mail that ever since the March 2008 statement of "we hope to include
such an option" there has been no OSMF communication to suggest
otherwise, until a few days ago.)
As for the e-Mail that goes out, I think fairness dictates that the
other side be heard. If there are many different other sides demanding
to be heard, this applies to all of them; however there is a point where
this becomes ineffective and nobody will take the time to read 150
slighly differing "other side" statements, so there is a natural
tendency for the other side to write just one or two contra statements.
I believe that I am speaking not as an individual, but for a relevant
minority inside OSMF.
In the case at hand, I believe that you are trying to unfairly overrule
myself and the other people in favour of PD. You are not only trying to
short-change us on what I have always taken to be a promise of adding
the "third option"; you are telling us so at the last minute *and* you
are threatening to use your elevated position as the official license
working group to make sure that OSMF members not reading this list will
not even be AWARE of the fact that all this occurs.
In the game of power and politics, this might even work. But I feel that
it would reflect badly on the job of the licensing working group.
There are seven members in the LWG. Assuming that you make your
decisions with a simple majority then it requires as little as four
people to determine word for word what goes out in that crucial letter
to OSMF members. And crucial it is, because once OSMF members say "yes"
then there is no way of stopping the license change process (except
perhaps applying an emergency brake).
Should such a crucial element in the process really be determined by as
little as four people, with no room given to the arguments of the other
I don't think so.
The responsibility of the decision lies with the members. They need to
be fully informed. If *I* were on the LWG, I would welcome opposition
statements and include them in the letter I send to the members, because
it is not *me* who makes the decision, and not me who has to take
ultimate responsibility - it is the members. If I would keep crucial
information away from them, that would only open the door to later
claims of a doctored process.
Frederik Ramm ## eMail frederik at remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
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