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Fri Sep 16 23:00:10 UTC 2011
Yep good points. In retrospect we should have pre-planned things a little more because the election is an important time for OSMF communications, but we were all very busy/distracted with SOTM stuff over the same period. I don't think any of the Communications Working Group or election organisers took any "official" steps to ensure manifestoswere translated, and yet several translations appeared. That's pretty positive. Thanks to those who went ahead and did that (That's the OSM way!) I guess this would happen even more next time if we simply and explicitly put out a request. Hopefully we communicated a bit more/better than last year, but we can improve for next year.
Couple of other things on the topic of translations of announcements:
We have gone to some trouble to set up translation features for the OSMF blog: http://blog.osmfoundation.org/ It's (kind of) available in French and German via the drop-down there, but we need some more translators. Currently we have Daniel Begin doing French and MichaelSchulze doing German. Contact me directly if you'd like to help the foundation with blog translations.
It looks like this list should be helpful as a place to find some suitable people: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Local_Contacts ...except that it's out of date. I just came across this wiki page recently. ideas/problems: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Local_Contacts
Our next Communications Working Group meeting is on Monday. Lots to discuss
From: Sam Larsen <samlarsen1 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: Henk Hoff <henk at toffehoff.nl>; Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>
Cc: "osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org" <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011, 17:50
Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Election
I wanted to find out what people thought about accounting for different languages in the OSMF elections.
Firstly, I nominate myself for translation into Czech & Slovak next year (if
it's needed) - but my German is not yet at translator level :(
I saw there were three or four manifestos that were translated into German, French or Italian. That's great, but most were not available in all of these languages.
I know it's a lot of work and nobody has any time, but it would be nice if we could get at least the manifestos and key voting instructions translated into German, French, Spanish & Italian [Russian, Japanese ?](add your language here ...). I know, where do we draw the line?
As i would assume, these languages cover a great deal of our users and would help to make the votes more representative of the OSM/OSMF.
If manifestos are kept short (e.g. 250 words), we could hopefully get an [impartial] translator or two from each language.
Maybe the reason that the OSMF membership is so small compared to the community is because people can't participate if they don't speak english. I suspect this is less so in Germany/Austria, but in other languages this may be true.
We could leverage a micro volunteering platform to help to get this done: http://www.sparked.com/ with some moderation by local linguists.
Manifestos would have to be finalised at a particular point to provide enough time for translation.
Is this done in other global collaborative projects? If so, any tips / advice?
If this all seems like too much work for a relatively small OSMF i understand, but maybe that's why we are so small.
>From: Henk Hoff <henk at toffehoff.nl>
>To: Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>
>Cc: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
>Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 21:21
>Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Election
>We had 296 members eligible to vote. That means we had ad 45.6% turn-up.
>On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Richard Weait <richard at weait.com> wrote:
>On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Ed Loach <ed at loach.me.uk> wrote:
>>[ ... ]
>>> Do we know what the potential electorate was (i.e. how many members
>>> the OSMF had at the time of the AGM)? I'm mildly curious about the
>>I believe there were 300-ish paid up members eligible to vote in this
>>election. Henk will have the exact number. So about 45% turnout?
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