[Osmf-talk] Fwd: OSMF membership applications rejected

Mike McGurrin mike.mcgurrin at gmail.com
Sat Aug 25 18:46:18 UTC 2012

I share Matijin's concerns.  It would seem to me, that in the absence of extremely egregious action, given the absence of any policy other than the board accepts or denies, all should be granted membership.  What's been posted to date on Mike's action don't rise to that level.

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> From: Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org>
> Date: August 25, 2012 7:12:40 AM HST
> To: Henk Hoff <henk.hoff at osmfoundation.org>
> Cc: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] OSMF membership applications rejected
> Hi,
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Henk Hoff <henk.hoff at osmfoundation.org> wrote:
> As you mentioned Mike is also active in a competing project.
> With Mike being an outspoken opponent of the way OSMF is going forward, I would suggest that Mike focusses his time on the competing project where (I hope) he's not seen as such an outspoken opponent.
> Henk
> I have a few follow-up questions about this board decision:
> * I do not remember having seen any announcement of this kind before on this list. Can I infer that this is the first time membership has been denied to applicants?
> * Are all applications and membership renewals held to the same level of scrutiny? I personally don't remember ever having been asked about revealing potential conflicting interests when applying for or renewing my membership.
> * It is still not quite clear to me why these individuals were denied OSMF membership. For 'Edwin-ldbg' you mention that the application was 'not serious' but treated as if it were, and you leave it at that. For 'Mike Dupont', you quote recent disruptive behavior and refusal to comply with the CT (when it seems that the applicant actually does have an OSM account for which he accepted the CT - is this true?), later adding that he is an outspoken opponent of board policy. All these arguments seem to me to be insufficient to deny someone membership. This leads me to ask what the criteria are for denying someone membership, and how those were applied here?
> I am not expressing an opinion about whether these individuals should be able to become members of OSMF. What I am expressing is some concern with the procedure followed, a concern which is in line with what Tobias Knerr expressed before me.
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