[Osmf-talk] Please Vote at the General Meeting this Weekend

Chris Fleming me at chrisfleming.org
Wed Dec 3 14:58:27 UTC 2014

I have to admit, back in 2011, when we started discussing this and putting
together the list a requirements for the new AoA, I was probably the one
who talked both Henk and Eugene around, to not putting term limits in place
at that time.

>From what I can see the final Articles were largely shaped by those
discussions. It's also worth noting that we we keen to create a set of
articles that reflected the way the Foundation worked and we were keen to
leave more controversial changes to individual motions such as this.


I have to say that I would not make the same argument again, it seems to me
that we have no shortage of good people prepared to server the board and
that a healthy cycling of people through the board is a good things. One
would hope that after members have served their time on the board they can
continue to work on OSMF business, and indeed I don't think there is any
reason not to invite non board member to board meetings, they just don't
have a vote.

It seems clear from recent discussions and the high number of people
leaving the board early, that the current setup isn't working and I find it
particularly telling that Simon Supports this after a relatively short time
as chairman on the board.

I've not made my mind up yet on the second resolution.


On Wed Dec 03 2014 at 2:15:41 PM Johan & Marguerite <textline at gmail.com>

> 2014-12-03 11:38 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch>:
>> Dear OSMF members
>> You have likely already seen the announcement for the upcoming general
>> meeting
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-announce/
>> attachments/20141122/c920b601/attachment-0001.pdf
>> on the 7th of December. I would ask you to make the small effort and
>> either participate directly in the meeting on Sunday or, better, vote
>> via proxy
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-announce/
>> 2014-December/000015.html
>> now.
>> As I pointed out in the original proposal for this general meeting,
>> actually achieving the 75% votes to carry the special resolutions is a
>> very high hurdle and unlikely to be achieved without support by the
>> board. But even if we do not pass the 75% mark, a high as possible
>> support for the term limits will send a clear signal to the board that
>> we want the issues to be addressed.
>> It has been suggested that the main problem with the proposed term
>> limits is that they actually affect some of the board members ability to
>> continue to stand for re-election. Without us sending that clear signal
>> to the board, it is very likely that the board will implement placebo
>> limits that only serve to pacify their electorate and have no real effect.
> Dear Simon, in your position as chairman of OSMF you have been preparing
> the AoA changes for the GM in Birmingham 2013 and Buenos Aires 2014. That
> means you have had two years in a (as I see it) relaxed atmosphere to
> implement term limits. In September 2013 this was the list of issues in the
> AoA: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Issues_with_the_current_Articles.
> No sign of term limits there.
> What is exactly your motivation behind passing these three resolutions now?
> Cheers, Johan
>> Please make the small effort to participate in this vote and make your
>> voice heard!
>> Simon
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