[Osmf-talk] OSMF Governance - Directors (was: 'OSMF Members Request for a General Meeting)

Andy Robinson blackadderajr at gmail.com
Fri Nov 14 08:05:45 UTC 2014

“It's possible that 90% of the OSMF membership don't care at all about the OSMF” Possible? no I doubt that very much. If one decides to be a member of the OSMF I believe one is likely to have a very caring interest, otherwise why bother?


Rather than a member of the choir from this outlook I’d say you were acting like the preacher.





From: Johan & Marguerite [mailto:textline at gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 November 2014 23:31
To: Gregory
Cc: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] OSMF Governance - Directors (was: 'OSMF Members Request for a General Meeting)


I didn't use the word 'all'. It's possible that 90% of the OSMF membership don't care at all about the OSMF. And that the most of the other 10% don't want to have their opinion out in public. I can't blame them, some responses are (extremely) negative. I happen to be member of a choir. There it's stimulated that anyone who has an opinion on any matter speaks out. And the board carries out what the membership wants. So simple can governance be. I was a board member in a citizens committee of my neighbourhood and organized a poll under all 1.500 households asking them wat they wanted. Since it shouldn't be a board of a few persons deciding what the citizens committee should do. That's another simple example of governance. In the culture of OSMF it's likely to be shot if one comes up with that idea. (no, it's bad, you can't get opinions out, the OSMF membership is fed up with anything but mapping etc.)


I like Michael's 2:1 ratio, I hope that my mail fits to that


Repeating the question of my previous mail: any opinion on governance of OSMF?


2014-11-13 23:31 GMT+01:00 Gregory <sotm at livingwithdragons.com>:



On 12 November 2014 18:15, Johan & Marguerite <textline at gmail.com> wrote:

 We (the OSMF members) want things to change. 

As an OSMF member, I would like to ask who gave you authority to declare what all OSMF members want?

You didn't even use phrases like "most of", "it seems", or "from what is apparent". It can be worked out from the numbers that a very tiny number of the OSMF members that voted in the recent board elections are the ones posting comments/debate/arguments in the OSMF-talk mailing list. You haven't talked to me, so you can't even begin to claim what I'm thinking.

As it happens I am busy creating a better map, out promoting OpenStreetMap and those that use it, and I'm busy defending it's data so that it continues to be so strong. The OSMF board have not stopped me in doing that, but the weight of my e-mail inbox has distracted me somewhat in recent weeks.




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