[Osmf-talk] Reaching out and diversity (Was: Re: AGM and board elections)

Jaak Laineste (Nutiteq) jaak at nutiteq.com
Fri Oct 3 08:42:43 UTC 2014


Two points:

1. is the closed osmf member list really best place to discuss such things?

2. culturally sensitive grown-up person would avoid to add any questionable tags to the default preset lists. It may be ok for you and me, or even useful to some brothel-fan mapper - they can add it locally. But lets consider also many people (e.g. teachers etc) from any more conservative country (which is over 50% of countries) who are studying JOSM and see such “strong word”. For me it seems that some people think that it is funny to add and keep such presets to the UI, but in fact it is not. Yes, some tags can be subject to discussions, but these adult-oriented tags are obviously not necessary nor nice. Or do you really want to scare off all school teachers from OSM?


On 03 Oct 2014, at 11:01, Oleksiy Muzalyev <oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch> wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> There are countries where it is illegal [1]. There are also countries where alcohol is illegal [2] (Bar, Beer Garden, Pub, etc. tags).
> In both cases it is possible to customize JOSM presets on your computer [3], especially on an ultra-book which one carries across borders. 
> I do it very simply (and probably incorrectly). I save the XML file of default presets [4] on my computer, remove corresponding blocks from this XML file, and point to this updated by me XML file in JOSM's Presets Preferences. Done. Both icons and text lines disappear from menus. It takes less than a minute.
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_by_country
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_alcohol_prohibition
> [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Customising_JOSM_Presets
> [4] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk/data/defaultpresets.xml
> brgds
> Oleksiy
> On 03.10.2014 9:32, Rory McCann wrote:
>> This is a tangent, but I'd like to chime in on the brothel issue. 
>> Like most social movements, feminism is slightly fuzzy at some edges, and there are disagreements. One is about sex work. Some think it should be illegal/socially restricted for feminist reasons. SOME ("sex positive") think it should be legal / just as socially accepted as any job, also for feminist reasons. To say all feminist are opposed to sex work is misleading.
>> Here's a slightly NSFW comic on the topic: 
>> http://www.robot-hugs.com/strip/
>> So, some feminists (like me) think removing the brothel preset would be wrong. 
>> Rory
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