[Osmf-talk] Reaching out and diversity (Was: Re: AGM and board elections)

Emilie Laffray emilie.laffray at gmail.com
Fri Sep 26 22:34:05 UTC 2014


+1 to your post, Mark.

Emilie Laffray

On 26 September 2014 15:06, Mark Iliffe <mark at markiliffe.co.uk> wrote:

> Sigh. Hence the earlier point of not naming and shaming, it's this precise
> wording and confrontational attitude that stops people from wanting to
> contribute. The point of this is that we need to change how we communicate
> and not single people out/call them out. Placing people in positions of
> needing to prove sexism in the court of public/forum opinion is wrong, both
> for the accused and the accuser.
>
> I've seen sexism at conferences and didn't say anything, but that isn't
> good enough for myself or the wider community. This is something
> experienced by others within our community and something we should all seek
> to eradicate, regardless of having experienced it or not.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>
> On 26 Sep 2014, at 23:19, Steve Doerr <doerr.stephen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 26/09/2014 15:54, John Crowley wrote:
>
>  In my years working in communities, I keep seeing the same pattern.
> Someone speaks up about misogyny or other aggression in general, then
> someone demands specific evidence, silencing the conversation. It is often
> not intended, but those seeking data should realize that they need to start
> by listening, not challenging.
>
>
> No they don't. The people making accusations need to provide evidence.
> Otherwise it's defamation. If there's no evidence, they made it up - simple
> as that.
>
> --
> Steve
>
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