[Osmf-talk] Paying Board/WG was: Standing for board election

Kate Chapman kate at maploser.com
Sat Nov 25 18:27:07 UTC 2017


I've added a question for candidates regarding this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM17/Election_to_Board#OSMF_Paying_Staff.2FContractors

Though I'm also interested in what others think and hope they will add
their thoughts to this thread.

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Yves <yvecai at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paying the board? What a strange idea to me.
> OSMF is far from a professional or very strong organization in its goals
> for the moment.
> Compensations would be an interesting step however.
> Yves
>
> Le 25 novembre 2017 18:47:09 GMT+01:00, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> a
> écrit :
>>
>> Paying people in key positions in OSM could be a big step forward but is
>> not without its challenges. What positions are 'key'? How do you evaluate
>> new candidates against incumbents? Who gets to do this? And practically,
>> where does the money come from? If you ask me, the money is the easiest
>> hurdle to cross. Creating an organization and culture that has a
>> transparent process to hiring the best people for the job who work side by
>> side with volunteers, is more difficult. But if we want to go that way I
>> think the board could play a role to set the stage. The board positions
>> should remain unpaid.
>>
>> Martijn
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought this was worth having its own discussion.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>> PS: there is the other problem that why on earth would you want to pay
>>>> the board first? Surely you would want to pay the people on the OWG, DWG
>>>> and LWG before the directors, given they are actually core to operations
>>>> not the board, unluckily that would probably amount to a couple of million
>>>> just for starters.
>>>>
>>>
>>>  Yes, I'd pay quite a few people prior to paying the board. Some of the
>>> things the board does are much more operational items than what a truely
>>> strategic board would do. To me if we were to start paying people to do
>>> those things we would hire someone to do it rather than pay ourselves.
>>> Dorothea over the past year has helped immensely in this way, so there
>>> already is a precedent.
>>>
>>> -Kate
>>>
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