[Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

[Heather Leson]

Thanks for this conversation.


I think it is also about clear pathways for engagement.

A thought exercise:
how might we reshape ourselves to improve software contributions? What is
the vision we have to support the working groups and engage more folks

Some ideas:

-ask for software contributions that value their time
-give credit/tell a good inclusive story
-product/project management (1 hour, 3 hour, 5 times a month asks)
-engage in human collaboration (kindness)
-be a community manager

I am with Joost on this 'root cause' opportunity - track ideas, iterative
together, coordinate.

Heather

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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:

> Actually I think this is more  indicative of why software development is
> so inefficient in OSM than anything else.
>
> There are plenty of developers in OSM space, but when they do something
>
> - It is mainly ego driven, quite understandably so "if I spend my free
> time on something, I want the glory", with the result that it is nearly
> impossible to get people to work together on an existing project,
>
> - it is completely uncoordinated, the EWG just went through a process of
> gathering and prioritising important tasks, Bryan creates a parallel effort
> to bolster his election platform so we end up with duplication of effort
> even at a meta level, not to mention that most devs can't even be a****d to
> mention on the dev list that they intend to work on something and by that
> don't get important requirement information (for example information on
> GDPR related requirements).
>
> SImon
>
> Am 20.02.2018 um 08:57 schrieb joost schouppe:
>
> This discussion shows once again how great we are at generating smart
> ideas. That definitely is not our problem. But all ideas are equal and will
> only get executed if the one who posited them executes them. As the project
> becomes more complex, that means you can either play in a corner by
> yourself, or try to effect change as an individual. It also means power to
> the devs and the time-rich, not to the community at large. None of which is
> optimal.
> We need a way to turn a thread into competing ideas, and to turn winning
> ideas into actions. I'm not sure how we can do that, but I'm enthousiastic
> about Bryan Housel's just-do-it project of using a github issue tracker for
> that (see his position statement for the OSM-US elections [1]). I agree
> with emacsen that having such things run by a single developer is probably
> the worst possible solution, but I think this is a good enough idea to be
> worth a shot for being organised at OSMF level.
>
>
> 1: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bhousel
>
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