[Osmf-talk] Copyright in the Digital Single Market

[Clifford Snow]

Christoph,

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:06 PM Christoph Hormann <chris_hormann at gmx.de>
wrote:

>
> I think the explanation is probably mostly that the EU plans perfectly
> dovetail with the interests of the big corporate OSM data users.  As
> you could hear at SotM most of them do not want to use the user
> generated content in unfiltered form anyway and are actively developing
> their own filtering framework.  There are two scenarios for the future
> EU legislation on this matter:
>

Actually I think if you look at the breakdown of who voted for the
copyright directive, you see that it's the conservative members. Boingboing
has a good chart on voting. See
https://boingboing.net/2018/09/12/vichy-nerds-2.html.

It's the large media companies that want this and they found an audience
that they could influence.

As for OSMF being influenced by big corporate users, I agree with Mikel.
Making accusations like that need to have some facts to back up it up.
Having discussed why big companies are switching to OSM with people
employed by them, it clear that their companies see OSM as a cost effective
means to an end. None of them want to see OSM restrained.

>
> * there will be an exception from the upload filter requirement that
> covers OSM.  In that case corporate data users might be required to
> filter but they do this anyway so this is perfectly fine (and it might
> help against competition that does not have a filtering
> infrastructure).
>

I sorry - I just don't understand what you wrote.

>
> * OSM will be required to filter user contributions.  That scenario is
> fine for corporate data users as well because it would mean OSM already
> does at least some of the filtering they would want or need to do.
>

OSM has always been on the lookout for copyright material being added to
our database. I don't see anything changing. Although if it caused SEO
firms to step up and become good contributors, I'd be all for that.

>
> Also keep in mind that what has been decided today is not an actual
> piece of legislation, it is a draft that is to go into the negotiation
> process between parliament, commission and council.  What comes out of
> this as actual legislation can be and likely will be very different
> from what has been discussed now.
>
>
Good point.

BTW - it was nice to meet you in Milano.


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