[Osmf-talk] Copyright in the Digital Single Market

[Christoph Hormann]

On Thursday 13 September 2018, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> Actually I think if you look at the breakdown of who voted for the
> copyright directive, you see that it's the conservative members.
> Boingboing has a good chart on voting. See
> https://boingboing.net/2018/09/12/vichy-nerds-2.html.
>
> It's the large media companies that want this and they found an
> audience that they could influence.

That's mostly for Article 11 which was indeed massively pushed by 
traditional media looking for new revenue streams because their old 
ones dry up in the digital age.  And this was most successful with 
conservative politicians obviously.

> As for OSMF being influenced by big corporate users, I agree with
> Mikel. Making accusations like that need to have some facts to back
> up it up.

I have not said corporations are actively influencing the OSMF and i 
have not accused anyone of anything.  I have said and explained why i 
think the EU plans on upload filters are in line with interests of 
corporate OSM data users.  If Mikel disagrees with my analysis of the 
interests he is welcome to argue that.

It might have been unclear that i was referring only to Article 13 of 
the proposed draft - which is what the campaign against this was all 
about.  There are quite obviously other Articles of the draft big 
corporate OSM data users have serious problems with in the currently 
discussed form - in particular Article 3 and Article 14/15 - We will 
for example likely see massive lobbying to extend Article 3 from 
scientific research only to include also commercial activities.

These concerns don't have much to do with OSM though.

> > * there will be an exception from the upload filter requirement
> > that covers OSM.  In that case corporate data users might be
> > required to filter but they do this anyway so this is perfectly
> > fine (and it might help against competition that does not have a
> > filtering
> > infrastructure).
>
> I sorry - I just don't understand what you wrote.

I meant to say that in the event that OSM (or more precisely the OSMF) 
itself is somehow excempt from future mandatory upload filters but 
corporate OSM data users are not (which is not an unlikely scenario) 
that would not pose serious problems for most corporate data users - 
because they likely have filtering mechanisms in place for other 
reasons already.

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Christoph Hormann
http://www.imagico.de/