[Osmf-talk] attribution: board letter to facebook

[Nuno Caldeira]

Às 10:59 de 20/10/2019, Rihards escreveu:
> Nuno, that's really great work on collecting evidence.
> Going through email list archives is not efficient, though - would you
> have a chance to collect this information in a subpage for
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution ?

I have already listed facebook there a year ago and pointed this HERE 
map attribution on the comments.

Feel free to link the videos, i won't take them down from youtube. If 
you prefer i can upload the videos if you wish to host them elsewhere.

> If it's kept very neutral and only stated facts, it would allow to
> reference one up-to-date material in discussions here, or perhaps even
> use it as a basis for a board letter (if board can be convinced to send
> one).
> Or it could transform into an article for media outlets - there are
> likely many potential usecases for a groomed text.
>
> Personally I'd love to read something with minimum reliance on videos
> (with textual descriptions on what the problem is when a video is
> needed), but anything in this area is already very helpful - thank you
> again.

I already asked Facebook to fix, asked the board to act. Zero action, no 
wonder companies push the envelope, ignore the contributors, the 
community, the license, the guidelines despite even being OSMF corporate 
members.

I listened to the board last meeting this week. they decided to ask LWG 
for further details before a decision and wait for the attribution 
guidelines to be finished. Long story short, decide not to decide 
anything. As i mentioned several times, even to the board directly, this 
is not a case of how to attribute, it's a lack of attribution at all and 
even attributing to a third party that's 100% sure not the basemap they 
are showing. I know my edits very well and as pointed in the videos, 
HERE does not map islets or cable cars as ways. Feel free to replicate 
what's shown in the videos in your area and see your contributions being 
used without the attribution or acknowledge of map source. From the 
moment they decided to use OSM, they have agreed to comply with the 
license, if they can't fulfill it, just stop using it and don't hide 
behind excuses of having multiple platforms, marketing stunts as their 
AI or "we take attribution seriously" as @ 26:50 
https://media.ccc.de/v/sotm2019-1250--keepin-it-fresh-and-good-continuous-ingestion-of-osm-data-at-facebook#t=587 
. Actions speaks louder than words.