[Osmf-talk] attribution: board letter to facebook

[Rihards]

On 20.10.19 19:48, Nuno Caldeira wrote:
> Às 10:59 de 20/10/2019, Rihards escreveu:
>> Nuno, that's really great work on collecting evidence.
>> Going through email list archives is not efficient, though - would you
>> have a chance to collect this information in a subpage for
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution ?
> 
> I have already listed facebook there a year ago and pointed this HERE
> map attribution on the comments.

Right, I meant a whole separate page devoted to Facebook attribution
woes, documenting all the cases in - very polite - detail.

> Feel free to link the videos, i won't take them down from youtube. If
> you prefer i can upload the videos if you wish to host them elsewhere.
> 
>> If it's kept very neutral and only stated facts, it would allow to
>> reference one up-to-date material in discussions here, or perhaps even
>> use it as a basis for a board letter (if board can be convinced to send
>> one).
>> Or it could transform into an article for media outlets - there are
>> likely many potential usecases for a groomed text.
>>
>> Personally I'd love to read something with minimum reliance on videos
>> (with textual descriptions on what the problem is when a video is
>> needed), but anything in this area is already very helpful - thank you
>> again.
> 
> I already asked Facebook to fix, asked the board to act. Zero action, no
> wonder companies push the envelope, ignore the contributors, the
> community, the license, the guidelines despite even being OSMF corporate
> members.

The page could also have history of who and when exactly was contacted
at Facebook to demonstrate that it's not a case of being unaware.

> I listened to the board last meeting this week. they decided to ask LWG
> for further details before a decision and wait for the attribution
> guidelines to be finished. Long story short, decide not to decide
This is an interesting point. I very well understand the desire for the
board not to get too involved (many things to do already, a perceived
conflict of interest etc), but the dependency on guidelines seems weak.

Has Facebook expressed confusion over how they should improve their
attribution - in public or in private?
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-- 
 Rihards