[Osmf-talk] Microgrants Committee starting up

[Allan Mustard]

That's true, but of course if the OSM community is truly worried (as
some members have professed to me) about the risk of a stealth takeover
of the Foundation by corporate interests via the working groups, this
sort of requirement would seem both prudent and logical.  The Board
would only contemplate such a rule for the WGs if the community wanted it.

On 4/12/2020 11:25 AM, Simon Poole wrote:
>
>
> Am 04.04.2020 um 15:18 schrieb Allan Mustard:
>>
>> Is there any reason the Board could not require that all WGs and
>> committees apply the conflict-of-interest rules once they are final?
>>
> It is probably a qualified "no, no reason not to". Qualified because I
> don't know what is actually in it, but assuming there are no basic
> human rights violations enshrined in the policy and it doesn't require
> anything against the law in the UK, the OSMF is obviously free to
> askwhat ever it wants from WG members. Naturally the WG members have
> the same right to just walk away.
>
> Simon
>
>
>> apm
>>
>> On 4/4/2020 5:45 AM, Joost Schouppe wrote:
>>> Hi Frederik,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input, I'll make sure it's on the agenda for the next
>>> (or a later) agenda.
>>>
>>> The Board finally has a first draft of a CoI procedure - it looked
>>> pretty close to a finished product to me. I don't think it should be
>>> too much work to adapt it to use in the Microgrants Committee.
>>>
>>> Joost
>>>
>>> Op za 4 apr. 2020 11:33 schreef Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org
>>> <mailto:frederik at remote.org>>:
>>>
>>>     Joost,
>>>
>>>     the microgrants group is going to be responsible for disbursing
>>>     quite an
>>>     amount of money in the future; I think it would be appropriate
>>>     if - like
>>>     OSMF board members - they were to list their affiliations
>>>     somewhere. For
>>>     this role in particular I think it would be relevant to know
>>>     what, if
>>>     any, relationship the group members have to existing
>>>     grant-giving bodies
>>>     in the wider OSM sphere - are they or were they recently
>>>     /employed by/in
>>>     a contractual relationship with/the recipient of funding from/a
>>>     member
>>>     of/ groups like /HOT/the UN/MSF/Missing Maps/Red Cross/Youth
>>>     Mappers/ et
>>>     cetera.
>>>
>>>     I would also be interested in hearing if the group has
>>>     considered what a
>>>     conflict of interest would be in the course of committee work
>>>     and how
>>>     they would deal with that. For a (hypothetical) example, if one
>>>     of the
>>>     team had been involved with a UN water sanitation project in
>>>     Kenya and
>>>     then a proposal from a former fellow team member at that water
>>>     sanitation project comes in - would they then say "great, our group
>>>     member X know the applicant already and is in an ideal position
>>>     to judge
>>>     this", or would they rather have that group member recuse
>>>     themselves?
>>>     Either decision has its merits but it's good to think about this
>>>     before
>>>     it arises.
>>>
>>>     As you know, the OSMF board has spent a lot of time in the past
>>>     circling
>>>     that Conflict-of-Interest topic and never made a lot of
>>>     progress; it is
>>>     not my intention to suck time away from the Microgrants team by
>>>     having
>>>     them repeat that exercise, but CoI is hard even without a EUR
>>>     200k bag
>>>     of money in hand, and I'd urge people to at least consider potential
>>>     issues here.
>>>
>>>     Bye
>>>     Frederik
>>>
>>>     -- 
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