[Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

Greg Lauer gregory.lauer at gmail.com
Fri Dec 11 01:06:06 UTC 2020


Hi Allan

Just to be clear, OSGeo Oceania, as a community has not endorsed the online document at this point in time. It is being discussed on the OSGeo Oceania mailing list (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/) and the OSGeo Oceania Board is meeting this afternoon (Australia time) to decide an action. 

We will update the list once we the Board and community have agreed on the appropriate response.

Best regards

Greg Lauer
OSGeo Oceania 

On 12/11/2020 10:49:33 AM, Allan Mustard <allan.mustard at osmfoundation.org> wrote:
@Andrew Hain,

One factual correction:

The so-called "divisive North American attitudes" have been endorsed in the online document by the following organizations:

Geochicas
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Community Working Group
GeoLadies Philippines
MapBeks
UP Resilience Institute Youth Mappers
Crowd2Map
SharedStreets
Ushahidi
Open Knowledge Nepal
OSGeo Oceania
Ministry of Mapping
Unique Mappers Network, Nigeria
Bangladesh Open Innovation Lab (BOIL) & Team BHOOT
Kaart
Mental Health A-WHERE-ness PH, Inc.


The Philippines, Oceania, Nepal, Nigeria, and Bangladesh are not in North America.  Geochicas are found not only in North America, but in South America, Europe, and Africa.  Ushahidi is based in Africa, as is Crowd2Map.  In short, what you term "divisive North American attitudes" appear to have support from individuals and organizations outside North America. 


In weighing potential paths forward, the Board will consider factual information.  It is thus incumbent on all correspondents using this list to adhere to facts when expressing their views.


apm


On 12/10/2020 5:02 PM, Andrew Hain wrote:

The big problem I have with this manifesto is that it brings divisive North American attitudes to a worldwide project. As a worldwide project, building a community of mappers from the whole world is our most important single diversity objective. That doesn�t mean we shouldn�t encourage other underrepresented groups such as women, but we should step away from this kind of international combativeness and dog whistling. It may even be counterproductive: some feminists in my country think �diversity� has become a code word for misogyny.

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Andrew 

From: Celine Jacquin <celija at gmail.com> [mailto:celija at gmail.com]
Sent: 09 December 2020 19:06
To: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org [mailto:osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org] <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org> [mailto:osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org]; talk at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk at openstreetmap.org] <talk at openstreetmap.org> [mailto:talk at openstreetmap.org]
Subject: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community
 
Hello everybody
I hope you are all well

We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have reacted to the conversation in the osm-talk-list (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html [https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html]) considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we have faced for many years in the community, which is one of the greatest obstacles to diversity at all levels of OSM. Time to make a real change.
That is why we have developed a beginning of statement on the desirable mechanisms to work solidly on the rules of coexistence and improve diversity.

We bring it to your attention and invite anyone who feels represented to sign it. Translations are in preparation (any help is welcome): 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing [https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing]



On behalf of the signatories

Best regards

C�line Jacquin


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