[Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

Allan Mustard allan.mustard at osmfoundation.org
Fri Dec 11 01:07:59 UTC 2020


Thanks for the clarification.

apm

On 12/10/2020 8:06 PM, Greg Lauer wrote:
> Hi Allan
>
> Just to be clear, OSGeo Oceania, as a community has not endorsed the
> online document at this point in time. It is being discussed on the
> OSGeo Oceania mailing list (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/)
> and the OSGeo Oceania Board is meeting this afternoon (Australia time)
> to decide an action. 
>
> We will update the list once we the Board and community have agreed on
> the appropriate response.
>
> Best regards
>
> Greg Lauer
> OSGeo Oceania 
>
>> On 12/11/2020 10:49:33 AM, Allan Mustard
>> <allan.mustard at osmfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> @Andrew Hain,
>>
>>
>> One factual correction:
>>
>>
>> The so-called "divisive North American attitudes" have been endorsed
>> in the online document by the following organizations:
>>
>>
>> Geochicas
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Community Working Group
>> GeoLadies Philippines
>> MapBeks
>> UP Resilience Institute Youth Mappers
>> Crowd2Map
>> SharedStreets
>> Ushahidi
>> Open Knowledge Nepal
>> OSGeo Oceania
>> Ministry of Mapping
>> Unique Mappers Network, Nigeria
>> Bangladesh Open Innovation Lab (BOIL) & Team BHOOT
>> Kaart
>> Mental Health A-WHERE-ness PH, Inc.
>>
>> The Philippines, Oceania, Nepal, Nigeria, and Bangladesh are not in
>> North America.  Geochicas are found not only in North America, but in
>> South America, Europe, and Africa.  Ushahidi is based in Africa, as
>> is Crowd2Map.  In short, what you term "divisive North American
>> attitudes" appear to have support from individuals and organizations
>> outside North America. 
>>
>>
>> In weighing potential paths forward, the Board will consider factual
>> information.  It is thus incumbent on all correspondents using this
>> list to adhere to facts when expressing their views.
>>
>>
>> apm
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2020 5:02 PM, Andrew Hain wrote:
>>>
>>> The big problem I have with this manifesto is that it brings
>>> divisive North American attitudes to a worldwide project. As a
>>> worldwide project, building a community of mappers from the whole
>>> world is our most important single diversity objective. That doesn�t
>>> mean we shouldn�t encourage other underrepresented groups such as
>>> women, but we should step away from this kind of international
>>> combativeness and dog whistling. It may even be counterproductive:
>>> some feminists in my country think �diversity� has become a code
>>> word for misogyny.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Andrew 
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Celine Jacquin <celija at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* 09 December 2020 19:06
>>> *To:* osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>;
>>> talk at openstreetmap.org <talk at openstreetmap.org>
>>> *Subject:* [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic
>>> Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community
>>>  
>>> Hello everybody
>>> I hope you are all well
>>>
>>> We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have
>>> reacted to the conversation in the osm-talk-list
>>> (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html
>>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html>)
>>> considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we
>>> have faced for many years in the community, which is one of the
>>> greatest obstacles to diversity at all levels of OSM. Time to make a
>>> real change.
>>> That is why we have developed a beginning of statement on the
>>> desirable mechanisms to work solidly on the rules of coexistence and
>>> improve diversity.
>>>
>>> We bring it to your attention and invite anyone who feels
>>> represented to sign it. Translations are in preparation (any help is
>>> welcome): 
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>
>>>
>>> On behalf of the signatories
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> C�line Jacquin
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> osmf-talk mailing list
>>> osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk
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>> /Board of Directors/
>> /OpenStreetMap Foundation/
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