[Osmf-talk] Diversity statement (Was: Next OSMF board meeting on Thursday 30 January 2020, at 17:00 UTC)

[Allan Mustard]

I've also commented in Christoph's diary. 

I think the discussion is off to a good start, thanks in part to
Christoph.  I'll be interested in reactions to my post to his diary.  In
that post I also cited the Core Values on the Foundation wiki. 

Regarding the "How We Map" guidelines, they are fine but I have a strong
sense they do not go far enough, since they basically relate only to
mapping, and not to broader community interaction, or to the issues of
expanding our reach to the entire globe (which is an explicit goal of
the project, to create a map of the whole world, and primarily to do
that through local knowledge or "Ground Truth".)  We need some
guidelines on interaction so people are not turned off and leave the
project; we need to attract more contributors from more locations to the
project!

@Tim Elrick, regarding communication, I am astounded by the incredibly
large number of communications channels, and I agree with you that we
need some common understanding of what is appropriate and respectful. 
That, however, is likely not to be enough to diversify our contributor
base. 

cheers,
apm


On 1/31/2020 4:59 PM, Tim Elrick wrote:
> I would agree that this topic needs a community discussion first and
> should not be voted on by the OSMF board for the whole of OSM.
>
> As Christoph and Mikel pointed out, we already have Wiki pages
> dedicated to our values [1]. Diversity should be discussed within there.
>
> In terms of mapping, I feel pretty comfortable with what the OSM
> community has come up with so far [2]. Diversity - however defined -
> might already be in there. On a side note: I think, this document
> gives good guides to many issues OSM is facing at the moment (e.g. the
> heightened corporate interest in the project), and we should refer to
> it more often.
>
> I feel, what is still missing, is a discussion (and agreement?) how we
> treat each other in our various forms of communication. Differences in
> (cultural?) understanding of what an appropriate/respectful way of
> communication is might hinder many OSMappers to contribute in our
> discussions. If we manage to get this solved, we might not need to
> discuss diversity separately.
>
> Oh, and by the way, as a non-native English speaker I also feel the
> wording about the dominating language should be different. English is
> *at the moment* the working language, but it is just a *working*
> language, hence, native speakers should take this in consideration at
> all times when communicating on any of our channels.
>
> Just my two cents here,
> Tim
>
> +++
> @OSM: AGeographer
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Core_Values
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map
>
> On 2020-01-31 10:16, Mikel Maron, OSM wrote:
> Thanks Christoph, you've given us a lot to think about. While I don't
> think your points substantiate the idea that OSMF is on the precipice of
> becoming an illegitimate, dominating force ... I do think you bring up a
> number of good specific points about the text we should consider and
> would improve it. I'll comment on the diary.
>
> -Mikel
>
> * Mikel Maron *В +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
> On Friday, January 31, 2020, 08:50:08 AM EST, Christoph Hormann
> <chris_hormann at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday 30 January 2020, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>  > [...] Ich werde jetzt, da
>  > der Vorstand diesen Text als Grundwerte-Dokument der OSMF angenommen
>  > hat (wobei mir nicht ganz klar ist, ob diese Гјber der OSMF-Mission
>  > stehen oder ihr untergeordnet sind - in beiden Fällen gibt es da
>  > gewisse Konflikte) diesen sicherlich tiefergehender analysieren.
>
> Ich hab das jetzt mal getan und darГјber geschrieben:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imagico/diary/392072
>
>
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