[Osmf-talk] Mapbox Attribution

[Mikel Maron]

Hi Peter

Tobias raised this today in the Board chat. I immediately brought it to the attention of the appropriate account manager, who raised it with the customer. The point person there is on vacation (you Europeans sure get a lot of vacation! ;) so not sure it will be done as rapidly as hoped. But it is not something that Mapbox will drop. Appreciate that the issue was raised.

If I can try to encapsulate Mapbox position on this, compliance with the Mapbox attribution policy is taken seriously and acted on when noticed. It's not practically possible to stop customers from doing this, but when it happens, there's action.

I don't have an exhaustive listing, but it is not at all accurate to say that every case with missing OSM attribution also had the Mapbox logo. I've seen many with no data provider nor branding attribution at all. And actually quite a few more without the Mapbox logo, but ok attribution to data providers (don't expect anyone in the OSM community is worrying about that situation!).

As one of the two Board members with COI on attribution issues, and particularly working at Mapbox, I'm not going to going to be involved in the decision on how OSMF handles these kinds of situations.

-Mikel

* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron






On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 10:08:30 AM EDT, Peter Barth <osm at won2.de> wrote: 





Hi Board, all,

Some days ago I noticed that Immowelt¹ (a German real estate site)
is using OpenStreetMap data without attribution. The services are
provided by Mapbox and while providing big attribution to Mapbox
the one to OSM is missing.

I already brought this to the attention of Amanda and Tobias. However, 
as this is one case of many where a customer of Mapbox is lacking 
attribution and Mapbox' stand usually is "It's the customer's fault 
not ours", I wanted to share my thoughts and request here.

1. Mapbox is a corporate member that should take special care about 
our values. It should be a role model.

2. In every case involving missing OSM attribution using Mapbox map 
services (and there had been many!), the Mapbox attribution was 
present while OSM was not. I don't know the internal procedures for 
customers, but I'd suppose it shouldn't be too hard for Mapbox to 
enforce (or encourage) customers to take the same diligence for both 
attributions.

3. As the lack of attribtion in Mapbox maps is a common and repeating 
topic that had been raised to the board in several cases, I'd like to 
ask the board to be a bit more transparent about this topic, about the 
directors' opinions and about potential handling of COIs.

Thanks for listening,
Peda

[1] Example: https://www.immowelt.de/projekte/expose/k2ub432


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