[Osmf-talk] When OEG applies?

[Brian M. Sperlongano]

I think you've hit the nail on the head about what we mean when we say
"organized editing".  Whenever an editor is responsible to some other
person who is coordinating their activities, and that coordinator is
instructing or directing other mappers, that's organized editing.  Mappers
which independently choose to collaborate on some type of mapping project
is not "organized editing" in the OSM context, even when there are
centralized wiki pages where mappers individually and independently
collaborate on a project.  For example, there are currently dozens of
mappers in the US collaborating on revising the guidelines for highway
classifications, and making changes to the map in a coordinated way.
However, we would certainly not classify those activities as "organized
editing", no matter how well-organized the effort is, and regardless of the
role of the thought leaders involved.

However, if Mateusz Konieczny is instructing his family and friends on what
to map, and they answer only to him, it would be imperative that the
community be aware that Mateusz is directing their activities, and that
their profiles indicate that they can contact Mateusz as the leader of that
effort.  If Mateusz is encouraging his family and friends to become OSM
editors, and suggesting things that could be mapped, but isn't telling them
what to do, then of course that is fine and not a violation of the
community expectation.

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 2:29 PM <osm.sanspourriel at spamgourmet.com> wrote:

> > I was asked by people organizing it to set up OEG page on wiki as
> required, but it seems not necessary.
>
> Mateusz, my understanding is that you're about to make a coordinate
> edition of the wiki with those people.
>
> So you need to create an OEG page about the coordinated creation for this
> OEG page, but please do it alone otherwise you'll need to create an OEG
> page about the coordinated creation of this OEG page, and so on ;-).
>
> Yes the description is a bit too large.
>
> Nevertheless it makes sense to document coordinate activities in the wiki.
>
> That way we are aware of this editor and how to reach the team if needed.
>
> Jean-Yvon
> Le 29/12/2021 à 18:15, Yves via osmf-talk - osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org a
> écrit :
>
> Yes, I think it is a good idea to document this group effort in the wiki.
>
> With all the good intentions, setting up a lever to gain contributions is
> still a lever, and things can always go sideways.
> Documenting is the best way to move in the open.
> Regards,
> Yves
>
> Le 29 décembre 2021 17:58:10 GMT+01:00, Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk
> <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org> <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
>>
>> "The organised editing guidelines apply to any edits that involve more
>> than one person
>> and can be grouped under one or more sizeable, substantial, coordinated
>> editing initiatives.
>> While primarily aimed at map editing, they can also be applied to other
>> aspects of the project,
>> e.g. the Wiki."
>>
>> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines
>>
>> Technically "Mateusz Konieczny asks his friends and family to edit OSM"
>> already
>> fits (more then one person, substantial, coordinated by myself).
>> Though it is obviously not covered.
>>
>> (I think that I complained about it when OEG were drafted, but I cannot
>> track it down)
>>
>> But is it intended to apply in case where group of mappers
>> - made https://aed.openstreetmap.org.pl
>> - will make easy-to use editor limited to adding AED or
>> document how to add AED
>> - promote this across FB or something and ask people
>> to map AED?
>>
>> I was asked by people organizing it to set up OEG page
>> on wiki as required, but it seems not necessary.
>>
>> But OEG definition as defined technically covers it.
>>
>> But OEG definition seems broken and basically everything
>> is covered by it.
>>
>> (maybe editing OEG and giving some examples of what is obviously
>> covered and what is obviously not covered would be a good idea?)
>>
>
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