[Osmf-talk] Données open data venant de AND NL: domaine and.com cybersquattable?

[Allan Mustard]

Hi, Jorden, I am not a lawyer but don't see an issue here. Acquisition 
(leasing, in effect) of a domain name does not convey ownership of the 
previous holder of that domain name, or of the previous holder's work 
products. At least, not in any jurisdiction with which I'm familiar. If 
it did, we'd all be trying to sneak into ownership of gold mines, 
investment banks, and real estate agencies by buying their expired 
domain names. If "Allan's New Dimestore" were to lease and.com from 
ICANN, that wouldn't give me ownership of the old AND or anything it 
generated (too bad, huh?)

In any event, a whois search reveals that the domain was grabbed by an 
individual via GoDaddy on 23 March, and was re-registered to an 
individual whose identity is masked by DomainsByProxy, an Internet 
privacy firm:

Registry Expiration: 2026-12-16 05:00:00 UTC
Updated: 2023-03-23 17:45:04 UTC

cheers,
apm

On 4/2/2023 6:21 AM, Jorden Verwer wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> Het is me niet duidelijk wat precies het probleem is. Wellicht komt 
> dat doordat ik de Franse taal onvoldoende beheers (ik heb een 
> vertaling van deepl.com gelezen), maar ik zie niet in wat het voor OSM 
> uitmaakt in wiens handen de domeinnaam and.com precies is. Het was me 
> overigens niet bekend dat ze van naam veranderd waren, maar op zich 
> zou dat er ook niet toe moeten doen, toch? Akkoord, er wordt 
> zijdelings verwezen naar een gearchiveerde versie van een document dat 
> ooit op hun website gestaan heeft, maar dat komt zo vaak voor. Ik snap 
> niet welk risico we hier precies zouden lopen, maar dat kan aan mij 
> liggen.
>
> Groeten,
>
> Jorden Verwer
>
> (English translation by me)
>
> Hello,
>
> It isn't clear to me what exactly the problem is. This could be 
> because my grasp of the French language is insufficient (I read a 
> translation by deepl.com), but I fail to see what difference it would 
> make to OSM in whose hands the and.com domain name is. I should note 
> that I was unaware that they had changed names, but in itself that 
> shouldn't matter, right? Agreed, an archived version of a document 
> that could once be found on their website is mentioned in passing, but 
> that's a common occurrence. I don't understand precisely what risk 
> we're exposed to here, but that could be my fault.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorden Verwer
>
> (traduction française par deepl.com)
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Je ne vois pas très bien quel est le problème. C'est peut-être parce 
> que ma maîtrise de la langue française est insuffisante (j'ai lu une 
> traduction de deepl.com), mais je ne vois pas ce que cela changerait 
> pour OSM dans les mains de qui se trouve le nom de domaine and.com. Je 
> dois noter que je n'étais pas au courant qu'ils avaient changé de nom, 
> mais en soi cela ne devrait pas avoir d'importance, n'est-ce pas? 
> D'accord, une version archivée d'un document que l'on pouvait 
> autrefois trouver sur leur site web est mentionnée en passant, mais 
> c'est un fait courant. Je ne comprends pas très bien le risque auquel 
> nous sommes exposés, mais c'est peut-être ma faute.
>
> Salutations,
>
> Jorden Verwer
>
> P.S.: I sent this email in three different languages as a courtesy. I 
> would prefer that any further discussion on this subject be held in 
> English, but obviously I am in no position to impose that on others...
>
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