[Osmf-talk] Alternative Strategic Plan

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

As mentioned earlier, I agree entirely about the need for addresses, but
you have the problem of not enough mappers in some areas to be able to
personally collect them :-(

I wonder if a standard approach to various levels of Government, asking for
data to be released, but coming directly from the OSMF itself, rather than
individual personal mappers, may have a better effect in accessing the
required data?

Thanks

Graeme


On Tue, 16 May 2023 at 08:32, steveaOSM <steveaOSM at softworkers.org> wrote:

> On May 15, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Steve Coast <steve at stevecoast.com> wrote:
> > Let’s think about the major uses of maps:
> > From a display point of view OSM is probably the best map of the world.
> > From a routing point of view, it’s ok. When augmented with GPS, it’s
> great.
> > From an addressing point of view, OSM is vastly behind any other map.
> > From a PoI point of view, it’s highly variable.
> >
> > That’s what I mean by complete - if addresses and then PoIs were
> radically improved then OSM would be “complete” in the same way any other
> map is. Of course the journey is never ending, but unless we take a hard
> look in the mirror OSM will remain where it is today and gradually get
> bypassed by things like Overture.
> >
> > Put another way - it’s not great to be the best display map and have
> acceptable routing if nobody can find anything.
> >
> > This is an entirely achievable goal, we can fix this, or we can be
> exactly here in the same place in another 20 years.
>
> I appreciate your prompt reply.  I 100% agree with your "from...points of
> views."  I 100% agree that addressing is lacking, and will move us ahead to
> being a much more comprehensive "map" (as "map" is understood to mean what
> it does to most people, especially how "maps" are USED by most people, and
> that includes the fairly common task of "where is this address?")  As to
> POIs, I'm not sure I have real-world experience to offer feedback, though I
> know enough about this to agree with your characterization of "highly
> variable."
>
> Crucial to your answer is the clarification of "the same way any other map
> is."  Thank you for that.
>
> With the initial announcement [1] of streets.gl <http://streets.gl/> and
> the overwhelming enthusiasm it is receiving in that venue, I can also
> imagine (as an extension of "best map of the world from a display point of
> view") OSM becoming a premier, world-class solution for virtual reality
> immersion, especially as VR technology becomes more widely deployed into
> the mainstream, technologically feasible (it's still a pretty tall
> technical hurdle to render 3D OSM) and likely augmented by AI/ML logic and
> data streams (which are also being more mainstream deployed).  I don't want
> to "rest on laurels" or "celebrate with a victory lap" (just yet!) as we
> are in rather early days of this.  But this is an example of "blue sky"
> where OSM can be the "best jet in the wild blue yonder."
>
> I'm enthusiastic and very OSM-forward, Steve (and community).  If our
> current state of addresses put us vastly behind, let's fix that.
> Afterwards (having become "broad enough"), we can continue to go "deep
> enough" for whatever might suit our fancy.
>
> [1]
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/streets-gl-a-new-3d-renderer-for-osm/98594
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