[Strategic] Action: Test front page with moved search form

Kai Krueger kakrueger at gmail.com
Fri May 27 09:21:09 BST 2011


On 05/27/2011 01:54 AM, Steven Feldman wrote:
> That's JFDI at it's best!
As much as I very much like and strongly encourage JFDI, strategic and 
the SWG is not the right place for JFDI, that would be dev. SWG is about 
<sarcasm> bullshitting around and coming up with a (meaningless) 
strategy <sarcams> or slightly less sarcastic, it is imho about 
gathering statistics to identify where the problems lie in achieving the 
goals osm(f) has and what solutions they may _theoretically_ be to get 
around those. Indeed, simply defining what those goals are in the first 
place would be a good start. I.e. design a strategy of which problems 
need solving in which way. Others (dev) can then JFDI. And if they 
decide to ignore the strategy SWG comes up with while JFDI, well so be 
it. SWG is imho a helper organ to support others who do things by 
providing them with information to make the correct decisions. The 
_people_ who do one thing or another of cause don't have to be mutually 
exclusive.

If JFDI can't be done on dev anymore and needs to be done on SWG, we 
have a problem. That would be an admission that the dev channels have 
become so large and unmanageable that we need to create a new smaller 
and exclusive cabal to go back to JFDI, which would imho be bad.

Kai

>
> Much, much better.
>
> Questions from a non-coder. Could the search results?
>
>    1. Appear in a drop down below the search rather than that wide
>       panel on the left, which you then have to close?
>    2. Be an ajaxy typeahead?
>    3. Be smartly limited? If you type in dublin, you almost certainly
>       mean Dublin, Ireland not some small town in the Ohio. Do we have
>       data to rank places and give the more obvious search results?
>
>
> Steven
> _____________________
> *
> *
>
> On 27 May 2011, at 03:15, Dermot McNally wrote:
>
>> An update on this - because it will be a few days before I can do much
>> on this again, I've made some of the simpler changes already and
>> updated my github version. The changes against the version I described
>> earlier are:
>>
>> * "Where am I?" is now called "Where is this?" and has been moved to
>> the permalink area. I'm not advocating this new name in particular,
>> but I think it's a better description of what the link does. Likewise,
>> I'm pretty sure the permalink area isn't where this should live but
>> there's no room for it in the slimline search form and it doesn't
>> really belong there anyway. See my earlier comments for more thoughts
>> on what we could do with this.
>>
>> * As per SteveC's suggestion, there is no more "Search" title on the
>> form, the word "Search" instead appearing in the button. Note that
>> this has required widening the button, and, to most simply stay within
>> the container, reducing the width of the text field. I'm a little
>> concerned about the variation in button width that we might have
>> across different languages, where "go" seems to have been compact
>> enough across the board.
>>
>> * The in-form examples are now gone, replaced with a link to what I've
>> for now called "Acceptable formats...". I do intend to adopt SteveC's
>> disappearing-grey-text suggestion, but that'll need some JavaScript
>> and I'm too tired to write that just now. I also feel that the link,
>> whatever it ends up being called, should not take you away from the
>> map page and certainly shouldn't link to the big Nominatim article. So
>> it probably wants to make a small popup/dialogue appear with the same
>> sort of examples as I removed, though probably there'll be room for a
>> few more of them.
>>
>> Dermot
>>
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