[Tagging] Use of place=suburb (was Re: RFC: place=neighbourhood)

Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhauser at gmail.com
Wed Aug 31 18:18:42 BST 2011

One thing adding to the confusion is that suburb has different definitions
at different places on the wiki.  Based on this conversation, here's what
I'm hearing: "A named area within a city, town or possibly village that is
generally larger than a neighbourhood, and may contain multiple
neighbourhoods."  There's discussion on some wiki pages about other
attributes for suburbs, but I'm not sure those are really relevant (ie if it
has a government, how it came into the city, where it's located).  Am I
getting close?

Thanks, Brad

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2011/8/31 Phil! Gold <phil_g at pobox.com>:
> > * Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> [2011-08-31 14:33 +0200]:
> >> No, suburb is actually not necessarily outside the city (in OSM), it
> >> is used for central districts as well.
> >
> > I've often been confused by the suburb tag and maybe someone can clear it
> > up for me.
> >
> > The tags place=city, place=town, place=village, and place=hamlet are
> > mutually exclusive; if a spot is in a place=village, then it's not in an
> > adjacent place=town.
> +1, that's how I see it as well. I'd also include
> place=isolated_dwelling to this list.
> > It seems to be that place=suburb is regarded as
> > hierarchically below place=city (at least); if a spot is in a
> > place=suburb, it could also be in a place=city.
> yes, I'd say it has to be part of some bigger entity (city, town,
> maybe even village).
> > Could the proposed place=neighbourhood
> > tag within a place=town or place=village be analogous to place=suburb
> > within a place=city?
> yes, and it could also be a place within a suburb.
> > (Assuming I'm correct here, I guess
> > place=neighbourhood would strictly be hierarchically below place=suburb,
> > so a suburb could comprise more than one neighborhood.)
> yes, there is some hierarchy, but I am not sure if it is _strictly_
> hierarchical (a neighbourhood is smaller, but maybe there can be a
> neighbourhood whose limits despite being small do not perfectly
> coincede with those of the suburb hence making it part of 2 suburbs. I
> am not completely sure about this, maybe it's nonsense, I have no
> example from the real world that would prove the idea).
> cheers,
> Martin
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