[Tagging] Feature Proposal - No votes for proposals opening_hours_holiday_select and opening_hours_open_until

Robin `ypid` Schneider ypid23 at aol.de
Wed Apr 9 20:04:25 UTC 2014


On 07.04.2014 22:34, Stephan Knauss wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> 
> On 07.04.2014 22:11, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote:
>> I created two proposals for which the time to vote is over but there are no
>> votes :(. Should we open the voting once again or what is the usual procedure in
>> such a case? The proposals are:
> 
> that "voting" for a proposal is nothing more than a rough indication of 
> the opinion of the people actually stated their opinion.
> You could have asked at your local regular's table, in the forum or the 
> mailing list.

Sadly, my time is limited. Unfortunately I don‘t find much time for OSM at the
moment but I try to support this awesome project with doing one thing and doing
it well (which in my case is ... opening_hours ;) ).

I know that writing an proposal and the real OSM data can and does differ in
many cases. But even with that in mind, it is still a good idea to have a new
feature documented somewhere, even if the feature is not very common.

> 
> It's just a different tool to do the community communication process of 
> getting a common understanding about the meaning of specific tags.
> 
> If no one is interested in your tags, then probably it's of no use to 
> the community.
> And we're too much of a Do-ocracy in this case. No one is interested in 
> people solving problems which only exist in theory.
> 
> If your tool can evaluate a specific patter, then do it and document it. 
> If it's reasonable then people will follow that tagging. If not a 
> discussion will arise in the future.
Sounds good. I did this already but then I learned about the proposal process
and it worked quite well in the past:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours_open_end_fixed_time_extension

But if no one (or only a few) are interested in the topics I came currently
across that is ok. It helps if there are pages on the wiki where a issue was
already documented and some solution where introduced.

> 
> I would imagine most people would handle places without a specific 
> opening hour similar I would do. If it's not possible to specify some 
> "core" hours which are certainly open, I would not specify at all.
> It's simply not possible to evaluate it automatically with a reasonable 
> effort. So if a business refuses to tell me when they're open, then they 
> have to accept that software giving hints about "open now" won't list 
> them. Similar to the "open as long as customers are there" closing time...

Sure but if they say you that they are only open during specific school holidays
;) This goes in the same direction as the question „Is this worth it?“
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/opening_hours_open_until)
which I did try to answer there.

> 
> Stephan

-- 
Live long and prosper
Robin Schneider



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