[Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

[Simon Poole]

As somebody who participates in at least two outdoor activities in which
road conditions are an important comfort factor* (inline skating and
riding a road bike) it would be great to have a reasonably reliable
indication of what to expect on a certain road segment additionally to
the pure mechanical restrictions that can be indicated by the surface tag.

However the smoothness tag does not fulfil the role, its current
definition makes it not only subjective, it is explicitly dependent on
the skill level of the person surveying.

At best the extreme values are meaningful and I would suggest that the
value space at least be reduced (something along the lines of good, bad,
impassable) in any preset.

Simon

* comfort is not the same as "usable"

Am 31.08.2014 04:11, schrieb Dave Swarthout:
> I also agree with Mateusz. I would like to see use of the smoothness tag
> become more universal so building it into a JOSM preset sounds like a
> good idea.
> 
> However, as others have said, the topic has had much discussion but
> little agreement on exactly how to determine the value. A highway that
> has "excellent" smoothness for automobiles may be not so smooth for a
> bicyclist. It is a subjective tag and there's no getting around that
> fact therefore you can expect some criticism for this addition.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> <dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     > Il giorno 30/ago/2014, alle ore 14:46, Andy Mabbett
>     <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk <mailto:andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>> ha
>     scritto:
>     >
>     > I doubt three mappers would
>     > always agree on which to use for a given place.
> 
> 
>     I think complete agreement is not necessary, it would be sufficient
>     if it were +-1, similar to road classification with the highway key
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