[Tagging] access in the wiki

Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com
Thu Dec 4 15:46:34 UTC 2014

2014-12-04 16:29 GMT+01:00 althio forum <althio.forum at gmail.com>:

> Second choice: I would like "military". Is the overload of the key
> such a no-go...
> Third: I'll go for "military_vehicles".

actually I am not completely sure about the "overload" problem, because we
already do it elsewhere (might be a problem there as well), e.g. the key
"bus" is not reserved to access-tagging alone, it is also used to declare
the type of stop in the public transport alternative tagging (which didn't
ultimately manage to takeover).

> Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
> > no, I'd clearly go for "private_hire"
> For consistency you could consider here:
> "private_hire" -> "private_hire_vehicle" or "vehicle_hire_with_driver"?
> I am surprised by your choice of "private_hire" because  this is the
> only case where I find that the definition is too implicit and
> requires the additional "_vehicle". Even if the expression "private
> hire vehicle" is common, with only "private hire" you could privately
> hire anything from cars with or without driver to bicycles and horses
> and caravans.

"private hire" seems to be a very established term, you can find something
in wikipedia and if you search for it with a searchengine you'll get only
pertinent results in the first pages. No "_vehicle" postfix typically. We
could add it still, because OSM tags are not only used by natives, but it
is definitely longer ;-)

> (4) attempt to modify "access" categories and labels
> Would you care to present a similar version of your ideas?
> It would be useful to see how you want to arrange labels and hierarchy
> for the categories you are describing.
> Maybe on the discussion page like
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:access#Draft_of_hierarchy_for_land-based_transportation_mode

yes, I think its time to move over to the wiki and set up a proposal.

Thanks all for your input, I'll post a link here when I've a draft for the

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