[Tagging] Hot springs

johnw johnw at mac.com
Fri Mar 14 02:38:35 UTC 2014


To me, Amenity=onsen is similar to amenity=townhall.

for many onsen, there is no particular room you would say is " the onsen," just like no particular room is the "townhall", It is the title of the facility itself..  The purpose of the facility becomes it's name. 

There might be some small facilities where a certain building is "the onsen", or there is a separation between the shower/prep areas and the actual bathing area, or like a Hotel with a public onsen indoors, and and separate, outdoor bath(s) outside. 

Tag the amenity on the landuse for the hotel, or tag the amenity onto the hotel building with :outdoor=no, and :outdoor=yes on the actual outdoor bath building/pool. 

Same thing would go for a sauna. If the building itself is "bob's sauna" - the obviously tag the building or landuse. if only part of the area can be defined as "the sauna" - when the facility's purpose isn't to be a sauna, like a hotel complex or something, then just tag the sauna area by itself, right? 

Javbw

On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Satoshi IIDA <nyampire at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> > not sure but usually the sauna in public baths is somewhat separated so
> > we might as well tag part of the object as sauna.
> 
> Yes, this is a very difficult point. I also could not define which is better.
> Maybe depending on the situation and country.
> 
> But from Japanese view, Onsen's main feature is as "public_bath" and 
> the type of bath is the sub category.
> (and from operator's view, it is easier to make query :) )
> 
> If the facility announces they are "XXX's sauna" or given name, and they are not onsen amenity,
> it is better to tag them as "amenity=sauna" even in Japan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2014-03-10 17:23 GMT+09:00 Richard Z. <ricoz.osm at gmail.com>:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 01:44:30PM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
> > > John
> > > some onsen are not associated with hot springs, but have hot sand instead.
> > Yes, but they are rare case.
> > Most of onsen are hot water bath.
> > So might be represented by adding following sub_tags.
> >
> > bath:sand_bath=[yes|no]  ; if the bathing amenity is sand bath (Suna_yu) or
> > not.
> 
> that reminds me we also have hay_bath in the Alps, so that would also
> fit into it and may be helpful for other cases too.
> 
> > bath:sauna=[yes|no]      ; if the bathing amenity has sauna facility. (Use
> > it when the main function of the amenity is public_bath. consider using
> > "amenity=sauna" when the main purpose of the amenity is sauna)
> 
> not sure but usually the sauna in public baths is somewhat separated so
> we might as well tag part of the object as sauna.
> 
> Richard
> 
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