[Tagging] diplomatic institutions (with tl;dr)

Kieron Thwaites kieron.thwaites at gmail.com
Wed Aug 26 11:15:48 UTC 2015


Take a look at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process

--K

On 26 August 2015 at 13:10,  <serpens-osm at gmx.de> wrote:
> What is the best way to bring this on a formal way to an official tag?
> Is wiki:Proposed_features the right place (it is partly about changing existing tags not only about new tags)? Where takes a vote place about this?
>
> Best
> Serpens
>
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. August 2015 um 14:21 Uhr
>> Von: serpens-osm at gmx.de
>> An: tagging at openstreetmap.org
>> Betreff: [Tagging] diplomatic institutions (with tl;dr)
>>
>> Short introduction: Let’s take the tagging scheme „fuel“ for example:
>>
>>   amenity=fuel
>>   fuel:diesel=<yes/no>
>>   fuel:discount=<discount programme>
>>>>
>> This is logical and consistent: amenity=xy and then a namespace xy:<subkey>=<Tag>
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>> Now to my topic: diplomatic institution – like an embassy, a consulate, ambassador’s residence, honorary consulate, consulate general, delegation, high commission, permanent mission, (permanent) representation etc.
>> We have amenity=embassy since long time. Some of these are tagged on top with the (relatively new) key „diplomatic“ too – a very useful key.
>> ---
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>>
>>
>> So I have two suggestions: *FIRST*
>>
>> Change amenity=embassy to amenity=diplomatic (this is more consistent and logical, analog to amenity=fuel etc.) or <whatever>=diplomatic. But please not the too specific „amenity=embassy“ – how could I explain a new mapper to tag a non-embassy (like a consulate) as „amenity=embassy“.
>>
>> for this, see also proposed features:
>> - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Embassy (and „talk“ page there)
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>>
>>
>> Besides the tagging of the type of diplomatic institution it is super useful to tag a machine-readable country code (at least for the sending country). This is done so far via country=<country code>. This is not the best solution because there are very often misunderstandings – which country? The sending country or the destination (hosting) country? Sometimes target=<country code> is used for the destination (hosting / „targeted“) country.
>>
>> My *SECOND* suggestion:
>>
>>   diplomatic:sending=ES       <--- machine-readable ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 country code
>>   diplomatic:destination=FR   <---                  -- " --
>>
>> It could be also diplomatic:destination_country or diplomatic:target or something like this.
>>
>> The destination country is not always identical with addr:country – see for example the embassy of Ethiopia in Berlin (destination countries: Germany, Poland, Slovak Republic and Czech Republic), see http://aethiopien-botschaft.de/
>>
>> for this, see also my osm blog (about tagging country codes on embassies etc.):
>> - state 2009: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Serpens/diary/5734 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Serpens/diary/9082
>> - state 2015: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Serpens/diary/28350
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>>
>> Because English is not my first language: Dear native speakers, please check if this is correct (sending country / destination country?).
>>
>> Taginfo:
>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=embassy
>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/diplomatic
>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/country
>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/target
>>
>> Best
>> serpens
>> ---
>>
>>
>> tl;dr (sorry for the long post!):
>>
>> Example (Spanish consulate in France – CURRENT STATE):
>>
>>   amenity=embassy        <--- „oh, look, it’s an embassy!“
>>   diplomatic=consulate   <--- contradiction: „uhm, wait, no. it’s a consulate.“
>>   country=ES             <--- often misunderstood as „addr:country“
>>
>>   name=Spanish consulate
>>   addr:country=FR
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>>
>> Example (Spanish consulate in France – MY PROPOSAL):
>>
>>   amenity=diplomatic         <--- it’s a diplomatic institution
>>   diplomatic:type=consulate  <--- more specififc: it’s a consulate
>>   diplomatic:sending=ES      <--- machine-readable ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 country code
>>   diplomatic:destination=FR  <---                  -- " --
>>
>>   name=Spanish consulate
>>   addr:country=FR
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