[Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbekkum at gmail.com
Tue Feb 24 06:15:16 UTC 2015

Thanks for all comments.

I would like to throw another issue in before I update the proposal with
the recommendations all of you made.

What to do with places where one *cannot* camp? I have run in many
situations where it would be really useful to have those on the map. I am
thinking of the following situations:

   - A camping used to exist at the place but stopped business;
   - A hotel owner offered camping on his premises, but stopped doing so;
   - Police has chased away people who tried to wild camp at the location;
   - Campers have been robbed at the location;
   - Camping is not allowed, because it is in a protected area.

Any suggestions?



On Tue Feb 24 2015 at 5:25:02 AM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 24/02/2015 9:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>> Forget the fee.
>> What about "official" vs. "unofficial".
>> A campsite supported by the landowner may be fee or not.
>> A habitually used camp spot may have a home on OSM, but should be
>> marked as "not supported by the landowner or land manager".
>> Same for unofficial trails.
>> Define 'unofficial'?
> Not speaking for Bryce, however, I could see a usage case for something
> like this.  For example, in my 20s I used to go 4x4 in Mt. Hood National
> Forest *all the time*.  And throughout the MHNF, especially once you
> crossed the Cascade divide at roughly the meridian of Mt. Hood's peak, and
> were therefore also on the dry side of the range, people can and do camp
> wherever they damn well please.  There's hundreds, if not thousands, of
> tiny, unofficial camp sites not associated with any campground that have no
> facilities (except for perhaps a fire pit and a wide spot to unload your
> truck and pitch a tent), and due to the fact you're having to hump in your
> own water, hump out your own trash, and dig your own latrine, no fee.  The
> Forest Service doesn't really know where they are or keep track of them
> beyond the collective knowledge of the USFS Rangers, they're just there
> because enough people have camped in the same spot.
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