[Tagging] Big amenity=fountain

[Warin]

On 1/06/2015 8:34 AM, John Willis wrote:
> +1 to Martin
>
> Really super large fountains (like the one in front of the 
> Bellagiao(?) in LasVegas is giant, and mapping the nozzles is possible 
> - but a nozzle is not an amenity. But the fountain itself is a 
> fountain (and landmark), which places it in amenity.
>
> Perhaps a fountain sub-key
>
> Fountain=*
>
> For the nozzles, lights, water fill, water return, shut-off/control 
> box, and filter set is a good idea (even if most of those are 
> unrendered), for fountain people to map the entire system.
>
> Javbw
>
Some (if not all) could be used by other things .. swimming pools, spars
Rather than isolate them to fountains .. perhaps man_made=light 
waterway=return_outlet waterway=filter ?
>
> On May 31, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer 
> <dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
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>> Am 31.05.2015 um 11:44 schrieb AYTOUN RALPH 
>> <ralph.aytoun at ntlworld.com <mailto:ralph.aytoun at ntlworld.com>>:
>>
>>> I am a bit puzzled by the use of amenity here.
>>>
>>> According to wiki it is "Covering an assortment of community 
>>> facilities..." that are of obvious use to locals and/or tourists 
>>> such as toilets, banks, schools.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with regard to "nozzle" while for fountains amenity is OK and 
>> is very established
>>
>>
>>
>>> I find the use of amenity for things like a bar or biergarten or 
>>> sauna to be outside this description.
>>
>>
>> but they are how the current scheme defines it, restaurants etc all 
>> are in amenity
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I also do not understand the use of amenity for a tourist or 
>>> ornamental feature such as a fountain?
>>
>>
>> a fountain is not a "tourist" feature in my eyes, they are much older 
>> than tourism in general. they are part of the urban furniture and 
>> serve for decoration, accentuation but sometimes also practical 
>> purposes like providing drinking water, cooling, etc
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Surely it is just a "place-of-interest" and would be under 
>>> tourism=fountain for those fountains that are of interest to the 
>>> visitor (and would therefore not be confused with a drinking 
>>> fountain which would be an amenity=drinking_water) and 
>>> man_made=fountain for others of less note (as I am unaware of a 
>>> general place_of_interest tag).
>>
>>
>> -1, I would not suggest to use different tags based on such a weak 
>> criterion like "interest to the visitor"
>> I also hardly can find any particular relation of visitors and 
>> fountains, besides that they look at them (just as they visit 
>> churches, but we are not tagging tourism=church).
>>
>> I'd keep amenity=fountain and render just a name (zoomlevel area size 
>> dependent ) with no icon, and would use
>> man_made=nozzle or maybe
>> waterway=nozzle
>> for the single nozzle (not rendered in default style or rendered just 
>> with a small dot)
>>
>> cheers
>> Martin
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