[Tagging] accordion gate & rolling double-track gate

[Christian Pietzsch]

Difficult question.
I would tag second gate mentioned like this: barrier=gate;
gate:type=rolling (http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/gate%3Atype#values).
Isn't used very often but sounds valid for me. (maybe with automatic=yes/no)

The first one is more complicated. There doesn't seem to be any reference
objects in the database (haven't seen something similar in taginfo). But I
for my self wouldn't create another barrier tag and stick to a new
gate:type=accordion.

Christian aka Hedaja

2015-09-24 10:36 GMT+02:00 johnw <johnw at mac.com>:

> I’m wondering if there is a barrier=* tag for these two types of gates.
> They are the two most popular ones in Japan, but are not are not listed in
> barrier=*.
>
> I would normally tag these as just barrier=gate, but as there are *so
> many* kinds of gates in barrier=* , I’m wondering if there is a specific
> type I should use or should suggest as a new value.
>
> The first gate is a very common gate for commercial and residential use.
> it is an “accordion" gate, where a large metal expanding structure anchored
> on one side of a driveway stretches out to meet a post on the other side.
> It rolls on little wheels, and pegs on the bottom catch permanent tabs in
> the driveway, locking the gate into place across the driveway. When locked
> to the far post, it cannot moved at all. When the gate is open, the dense
> stack often can be hinged back out of the way, so no part of the accordion
> is sticking out into the driveway (or at least it is up against the wall,
> so it is mostly out of the way). Although is is a common gate type for
> residences and small business’ driveways - I’m not interested in mapping
> these (as neighborhoods would drown in a sea of unimportant gate icons),
> but they are also used for access control in retail and commercial spaces.
> I’m interested in tagging these occasional important ones, like the first
> link below.
>
> FYI, These are not temporary, and will be in service for a couple decades.
>
> here is an example of two at a mall (near and far). I wanted to map these
> two, as a busy driveway for the parking structure is blocked off from the
> delivery area. They led me to this post.
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/CPbuYoDNE6m
>
> A folded up accordion gate hinged off to the side at a residence. Shown
> just for understanding the gate.
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/78U618DVAQB2
>
> This is a cheap and temporary accordion gate used by construction
> companies with their temporary construction barriers. I’m talking about
> permanent and stronger versions, not these flimsy things.
> https://goo.gl/maps/G5non3cZfHQ2
>
> ~~~~~~
>
> The second type is a large fixed barrier that rolls on double tracks,
> either manually or automatically. Most commercial and industrial buildings
> have these large rolling double-track gates that roll off to the side, and
> are usually anchored into the trackway in the driveway (so they cannot be
> knocked off the track easily, nor rolled over with a car). The gate can
> only roll a short distance (open-closed) because it is hooked into the
> track.
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/DKakBFtPmYK2 A closed one at a school. It has 4
> different ones, all of the same design.
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/nRXKgJuumT32  Two that meet in the center, both on
> tracks.
>
> Should they just be tagged as barrier=gate, or is there a need/desire for
> a new values of barrier=* for them?
>
> Javbw
>
>
>
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