[Tagging] Art galleries/museums

althio althio.forum at gmail.com
Tue Jan 26 09:43:44 UTC 2016


I agree there is a more fundamental problem.

This has been discussed in other places that I know of:
[french] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2015-January/074711.html
[carto] https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/883#issuecomment-81849889

My view is :
- tourism=gallery is not a well understood tag, 5 years after the vote
- in 5 years, it didn't convert many important art museums ("false
negatives" sticking with tourism=museum)
- in 5 years, it attracted a lot of selling galleries ("false
positives", should be shop=art)

It brings too much confusion, I take it for a bad case of duck tagging.

I would like :
- discourage tourism=gallery
- subtype of tourism=museum, museum=art just like
museum=railway/history, and further art=painting/...
- also redirect towards shop=art for badly tagged items

althio


On 25 January 2016 at 23:44, Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The wiki defines the tag tourism=gallery as 'an area or typically a
> building that displays a variety of visual art exhibitions' [1]. This
> is an officially approved tag [2]. In addition, the wiki page on
> tourism=museum [3] specifies that art galleries should be tagged as
> tourism=gallery, even if they have 'museum' in the name.
>
> However, practice shows that the tag tourism=gallery is not very
> frequently used. We have currently 54 951 instances of tourism=museum,
> versus only 1 505 instances of tourism=gallery. I had a look at some
> famous galleries: the MoMA in New York, the Uffizi in Florence, the
> National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, the Van Gogh Museum in
> Amsterdam, the Musée d'Orsay in Paris, and the Guggenheim Museum in
> Bilbao. It turned out that all of them are tagged as tourism=museum.
>
> This might be partly caused by ignorant mappers, but perhaps there is
> also a more fundamental problem. The line between a gallery and a
> museum is not always easy to draw, especially in continental Europe,
> where many museums have both historic and artistic exhibitions
> (compare for instance the Louvre). Also the fact that many galleries
> are called 'museum' does not help.
>
> How should we continue from here? Should we try to improve the tagging
> situation? Or should we discourage tourism=gallery, making it a
> subtype of tourism=museum?
>
> -- Matthijs
>
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dgallery
> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Art_gallery
> [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dmuseum
>
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