[Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Thu Jul 7 07:37:44 UTC 2016

The reason why I propose to add the placename as part of the name, is that
it gives a feedback about the correct order of the stops:


On the second line of that diagram, you can see:

Haasrode Kerk
Haasrode Kerkstraat
Blanden Kerk

So two times a church very near to one another. Without the placename this
would be:


So which church is served first now?

And I know it's possible to deduce those village names from the geometries,
but we don't all have geodatabase functionality available all of the time,
to make that calculation over and over, and over again.

We could put it in a separate tag, but what would that tag be then? not
addr: as that will give warnings in the validator, if I'm not mistaken. Not
contact: either. is_in? I thought we were trying to eradicate that one.


2016-07-07 9:14 GMT+02:00 Tijmen Stam <mailinglists at iivq.net>:

> On 07-07-16 08:15, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On 07/07/2016 08:04 AM, Tijmen Stam wrote:
>>> It's the place the stop is _in_.
>> We usually resolve such issues by looking at the surrounding
>> administrative area polygons. You will see that, for example, we have
>> long since stopped tagging a village with
>> "is_in=CountyA,StateB,CountryC" because the geocoder can easily
>> determine this information from the admin boundaries. The same can be
>> done for public transport stops.
>> Or are you saying that the public transport company might use a
>> different name for the administrative entity than can be deduced from
>> the admin boundary?
> Yes!
> As an example:
> The bus stop called "Veenendaal, Station de Klomp" (placename: Veenendaal,
> Stopname "Station de Klomp")
> is situated in the Hamlet of De Klomp, which is in an entirely different
> province than the city=municipality of Veenendaal.
> See <
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/271169#map=18/52.04610/5.57297&layers=T>
> for the stop, zoom out to see the municipality of Veenendaal in orange and <
> http://connexxion.nl/dienstregeling/halte?id=50810252&lijn=E080&richting=2&datum=07072016>
> is the bus company's stop.
> (Note that the bus stop's name is not the same as the train station's name
> because there are more train stations in and around Veenendaal
> The train station called "Veenendaal-De Klomp" is called Veenendaal
> because it serves that city, despite the station being in hamlet "De Klomp")
> Another example near me is where the two stops are in different
> municipalities, despite that both stops are called placename Diemen by the
> transport company.
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