[Tagging] service:car for car shops and repair

wille wille.yyz at gmail.com
Tue Nov 1 01:14:49 UTC 2016


Martin,

I saw the reference to service=dealer;repair;tyres;parts in
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcar_repair#Tags_used_in_combination

Dave, I fully agree with your opinion.

Wille

2016-10-31 22:36 GMT-02:00 Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>:

> Regardless of whether the service tag is "overused for highways", whatever
> that means, it is still a tag with a clear meaning and some historical
> usage. There currently are about 10K uses of service:bicycle:xx in Taginfo
> (xx=:repairs, :retail, and :pump) so it makes sense to expand this scheme.
>
> The tag "sells" is in very limited use at the moment. We had a discussion
> concerning "sells" on this list a while ago IIRC and it was dealing with
> supermarkets and what they sell, e.g., sells=eggs, sells=toiletries, etc.
> Someone was proposing that OSM could include the entire inventory of such
> shops, which is IMO clearly beyond the scope of our present database usage.
>
> As for the question posed by Martin regarding a shop=car with a tag of
> service=parts, "What does it mean if a shop=car has service=parts attached?
> Is it selling car parts?" Yes, it means that a car shop selling cars _also_
> sells car parts. The Wiki says that if a shop sells only parts, to use the
> shop=car_parts tag.
>
> I don't think this present discussion needs to apply to _all_ shops, as
> Warin suggests, but only to the particular top level tags of shop=car,
> shop_bicycle, and shop=motorcycle for which some sort of expanded tagging
> scheme regarding the services they offer would be very welcome.
>
> I'm not against the "sells" tag but I can't find anything about it in the
> Wiki and the most used tag in Taginfo is sells:tobacco with 16 instances.
> All the rest have only one instance. So, how should we proceed?
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 01-Nov-16 09:13 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>
>> Il giorno 31 ott 2016, alle ore 22:01, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>> The same 'pattern' should be used for all shops.
>>
>> service:thing=* where things could be shoe, cloths, etc
>>
>>
>>
>> like service:wine=bottles;casks;goblets?
>> service:harddrives=yes;dealer;defragmentation?
>> service:shoes=high_heels;sandals;flip_flops;sneakers? Or
>> service:shoes:high_heels=repair? service:shoelaces=dealer?
>>
>> Why "service"?
>>
>>
>> Service .. in this instance I would take it as a physical activity that
>> may include replacement of parts such as ;
>> maintenance (e.g. regular service of a car - oil change etc)
>> repair (e.g. replacing a zipper on a jacket)
>>
>> Parts .. I would see as a sells thing ...
>> Most English speakers would never consider 'wine bottle service' , that
>> is a selling activity (unless your a glass blower reforming a broken
>> bottle).
>> Again this should be common for all shops, and I believe I have had this
>> discussion on 'sells' here .. only to have it rejected as 'not for OSM' and
>> 'hard to maintain' etc.
>> Mappers are tagging this information into the data base .. in any fashion
>> .. and that leads to a mess.
>> If this tagging group wants to provide guidance on sensible tagging then
>> suggest better methods!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
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