[Tagging] Cenotaph WAS Re: Tagging memorial sites

Kevin Kenny kevin.b.kenny+osm at gmail.com
Mon Sep 19 22:36:58 UTC 2016


In what way is it not a cenotaph? It is clearly a structural monument. It
is in memory of a deceased person. Said deceased person is not entombed
there, although his remains are thought to be in an unmarked grave
somewhere nearby. It looks like a tomb, but nobody is entombed in it.

On Sep 19, 2016 6:31 PM, "Warin" <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 20-Sep-16 12:51 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
>
> tomb=cenotaph sounds perfect, if unusual.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben_Memorial_State_
> Historic_Site#/media/File:Baron_von_Steuben_Monumental_Tomb_Jul_10.jpg is
> the cenotaph that I was mapping when the question arose. Baron von
> Steuben's remains are in an unmarked grave somewhere nearby. The 'memorial
> tomb' was erected, contrary to his express wish to be buried in an unmarked
> grave, decades after his death. It is claimed, but by no means certain,
> that the memorial covers his remains. He is most certainly not entombed
> within it.
>
>
>
> Not a 'cenotaph'. *Cenotaphs are not tombs*!
>
> A definition of cenotaph is;
> a) a structural monument in memory to a deceased person whose body is
> elsewhere (so not a tomb)
> b) a municipal, civic, or national memorial to those killed in war.
>
> On the LPI data base (for Australia, New South Wales) there are 13 listed
> 'cenotaphs'.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> 2016-09-19 13:17 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> there's only one memorial:type=cenotaph
>>
>>
>>
>> btw., those cenotaphs wikipedia has as examples in osm would rather be
>> historic=monument than memorial I think:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenotaph
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
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