[Tagging] shop=fashion

Thilo Haug thaug at gmx.de
Sun Aug 27 13:54:47 UTC 2017

Hi Simon,

I also can't see a difference
between boutique and fashion.
Both might be a shop
with other items than clothes
according to these definitions :

"A small shop selling fashionable clothes or accessories"
"a small store that sells stylish clothing, jewelry, or other usually
luxury goods".

"A popular or the latest style of clothing, hair, decoration, or behaviour."
"Fashion is a popular style or practice, especially in clothing,
footwear, accessories, makeup, body, or furniture."

Possibly a

I think this system may be described properly
without causing confusion.
Please let me know which "lot of reasons" you mean.


Am 27.08.2017 um 15:04 schrieb Simon Poole:
> There is a big difference between a limited number of binary options
> and  essentially moving all values in to key space (and I can give a
> lot of reasons why it is a really really bad idea in a free form, user
> extendible tagging system).
> But it seems to be rather off-topic in this thread in any case: I
> simply wanted to know if there is a clear characterisation of
> shop=fashion that can serve as disambiguation between it and
> shop=boutique and shop=clothes (with appropriate additional tags).
> We have one voice saying that it should be considered a cheap variant
> of boutique limited to clothes, and the others suggesting that it is
> an upmarket shop=clothes and that shop=boutique should have a broader
> not only clothes definition.
> One takeaway is that adding the "clothes" tag both to fashion and
> boutique would be a good idea.
> Simon
> Am 26.08.2017 um 13:53 schrieb Thilo Haug:
>> Hi all,
>> I'm in favor of a namespace solution,
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Namespace
>> e.g.
>> ski:clothes=yes
>> surfing:clothes=yes
>> motorcycle:clothes=yes
>> any_other_sport:clothes=yes
>> and so on.
>> This way you may also tag other shops (not just shop=clothes)
>> in a way which exactly describes their offers,
>> in this example possibly a shop=sports.
>> The same works also for other services they offer,
>> like
>> ski:repair=yes
>> ski:rental=yes
>> ski:parts=yes
>> This way there's no need to create a new shop type
>> or decide whether it's MORE one type of shop (bicycle vs. motorcycle
>> vs. car or similar)
>> in case they offer very various things.
>> Cheers,
>> Thilo
>> Am 26.08.2017 um 13:13 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
>>> sent from a phone
>>> On 26. Aug 2017, at 11:15, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch
>>> <mailto:simon at poole.ch>> wrote:
>>>> the question turned up if shop=fashion (with 5000 something uses)
>>>> should not be deprecated (==not offered for new use) due to overlap
>>>> with
>>>> shop=boutique (~11'000 uses) and shop=clothes, clothes=fashion (not
>>>> particularly popular with roughly 200 uses). It just doesn't seem to
>>>> have a good definition, which is already pointed out on the wiki page
>>>> (but without a conclusion).
>>> I'd see shop=fashion similar with shop=boutique, while shop=clothes
>>> is not particularly helpful if you're looking to buy clothes (too
>>> generic). I'd roughly see it like this: boutique expensive, fashion
>>> cheap(er), department store both, supermarket cheap ;-)
>>> What would I search for if I wanted to buy a suit or a shirt
>>> (department shops apart which will sell you anything)? Maybe a
>>> "boutique for men"? To buy gloves I'd try with a  shop=bags? Or
>>> shop=leather? Or shop=sports? Or an outdoor shop? There are many
>>> places to buy clothes, cheap, casual, formal, according to the
>>> material, for work, gender, age, style, one brand/designer or
>>> multiple, or no (known) designer, discounter, different types of
>>> clothing (underwear, shirts, etc.
>>> I'm rather against reduction of top level shop types, there's IMHO a
>>> clear distinction between fashion shops and boutiques, with maybe
>>> some edge cases, but still useful overall. Nonetheless I agree that
>>> shop=clothes does require subtags to be more useful, but the current
>>> situation in the clothes key is not working:
>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/clothes#values
>>> There are many orthogonal, specific properties tagged, e.g. target
>>> group (women, men, children, babies), for specific occasions/uses
>>> (sports/wedding/workwear), materials (denim/fur), type
>>> (underwear/lingerie). Fashion would be yet another new category in
>>> this cauldron (with 111 uses it isn't really significant).
>>> cheers,
>>> Martin 
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Thilo Haug
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