[Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

François Lacombe fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com
Thu Feb 9 16:04:54 UTC 2017


Hi all,

Please have a look to man_made=cutline
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dcutline

This can be extended to other landuses to mark such a reserve.


Corresponding pipeline section can be tagged with this accordingly, but
since it doesn't have anything to do with network, I'd prefer a dedicated
way beside.

All the best

*François Lacombe*

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2017-02-08 13:36 GMT+01:00 Ross Scanlon <info at 4x4falcon.com>:

> Agree Dave.
>
> As I said it could be a park but without on the ground survey or other
> info it's unknown.
>
> These are quite often parks and should be tagged as leisure=park but
> onwards from that is the reason it is a park.
>
> In these situations the park could also be a reserve or easement for the
> pipe line.
>
> The discussion on talk_au was that it could be tagged leisure=park
> park=pipeline_reserve.
>
> Cheers
> Ross
>
>
>
> On 08/02/17 22:02, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>
> Thanks Ross,
>
> It *might *be a park but we can't be sure. The mapper only says
> source=Bing. For all we know he's merely making an educated guess. His
> changeset comment suggests he has also added some "pipeline reserves"
> although a quick look doesn't turn any up.
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ross Scanlon <info at 4x4falcon.com> wrote:
>
>> This is the aerial imagery of the area the original poster is talking
>> about:
>>
>> https://binged.it/2kN1tfC
>>
>> To all intents it could be a park.
>>
>> In osm it's at:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ross
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I see now you're asking about the land that the pipeline either runs
>> over or through.
>>
>> I would avoid the term reserve, however. I generally think of a reserve
>> as a larger area, often a park or historic area, e.g., the Gabo Island
>> Lighthouse Reserve in Canada or the Hinchinbrook Lighthouse Reserve,
>> which is a Park in Valdez-Cordova County, Alaska. There is also this
>> reserve which is related to your illustration; the huge area known as the
>> National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska, but I would not want it to be
>> confused with your tagging targets.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska
>>
>> Maybe landuse=pipeline would be a good pick?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08-Feb-17 06:51 PM, François Lacombe wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Warin,
>>>
>>> Do you have pictures of such areas plz ?
>>>
>>> I don't see anything corresponding to 'reserve'
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>>
>>> Not personally ... and it is a fair way away. As I say .. reported on
>>> the Australian group.
>>> I assume there is a sign locally to advise on the 'pipeline  reserve'.
>>>
>>> Gas pipe lines cover fair distances in Australia ..
>>>
>>> One line is 1,300 km here https://www.apa.com.au/our-ser
>>> vices/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/
>>>
>>> The reserve might be up to 25 meters wide from
>>> https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/
>>> Photo of their warning sign http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-co
>>> ntent/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg
>>> I have seen similar signs for gas and fibre optic lines in my
>>> wanderings, some warning of a restriction in use of area above the line -
>>> thus advising of a restrictive reserve.
>>>
>>> There will be local storm water, potable water lines too.
>>> Long distant buried communication lines too, a number over 8,500 km. At
>>> least some of these will have 'reserves' evident on the surface.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 8 févr. 2017 08:24, "Warin" <61sundowner at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> That tags the pipe line itself.
>>>>
>>>> The request is to tag the area set aside for a pipe line ... a reserve.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08-Feb-17 04:38 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is already a tagging structure for pipelines that takes into
>>>> account whether it's underground or overground. See
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252
>>>>
>>>> for a section of the Trans Alaska Pipeline. However, the land area
>>>> above the pipeline, which is restricted for casual access throughout
>>>> Alaska, has no special tagging.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> A question came up on the Australian list that would be more
>>>>> appropriate here.
>>>>>
>>>>> "My local area (and I'm sure many others) have lots of pipeline
>>>>> reserves.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm really not sure how to tag these. They appear to have
>>>>>
>>>>> public access for walking at least. (One local one has a sign
>>>>> disallowing golf...) Some others appear to be across private
>>>>> land, and i'm less interested in those, I'd really like to
>>>>> show those ones with public access.
>>>>>
>>>>> examples:http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-
>>>>> 38.15997/145.20073
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tagged them as leisure=park previously, and paths
>>>>>           evident on the ground have just been tagged highway=path.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?"
>>>>>
>>>>> My comments:
>>>>>
>>>>> I note the pipeline is not visible ... I assume underground and the
>>>>> location is not evident so you cannot map the pipe line itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> As it is a landuse ... ?
>>>>> I would tag landuse=pipeline
>>>>>
>>>>> However ... some pipe lines cross farms, residential areas ...  these
>>>>> have legal easements through the associated properties.
>>>>> And these would be already tagged with a landuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Humm power lines are mapped ... should there be similar provision for
>>>>> other infrastructure?
>>>>> Perhaps a 'infrastructure' tag that can be used for all?
>>>>> infrastructure=pipeline
>>>>> infrastructure=sewer
>>>>> infrastructure=water
>>>>> infrastructure=phone
>>>>>
>>>>> Note it should be used for the area that is affected by/reserved for
>>>>> the infrastructure, not just the infrastructure itself?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Chiang Mai, Thailand
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