[Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sun Jul 30 10:17:52 UTC 2017

After reading the discussion, I also think using produce is a sound choice
for such preset.


2017-07-30 11:31 GMT+02:00 Tobias Zwick <osm at westnordost.de>:

> >> - Farmland grows plants that are harvested as a whole (i.e. with
> >>   tractors), thus the actual crop can change during the years and
> >>   even several times within a year (see crop rotation) as after the
> >>   harvest, nothing is left from the plant. On satellite imagery,
> >>   they usually appear as an acre, meadow (when fallow) or densely
> >>   planted high grass/cereals.
> >
> > That is not really the current use of these tags.  Tea plantations are
> > for example quite universally tagged landuse=farmland and not
> > landuse=orchard.  Same for strawberries i think.
> Hmm, how did you get this information? In taginfo, trees=tea_plants and
> crop=tea there seem to be too few usages to show the combinations:
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/trees=tea_plants#overview
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/crop=tea#overview
> > The wiki currently suggests tagging trees=* and optionally produce=*.  I
> > think that is a good idea.  Given the current use of tags i would
> > suggest not to recommend not to tag trees=* without community consensus
> > to abolish this tag.
> Well, as said, I am not suggesting to make trees deprecated, just
> arguing that the app should not add one and the same information twice
> but use just one (universal) tag. This tag seems to be "produce", people
> can always add more tags (i.e. "trees=*") later, even automatically,
> since that tag can be inferred from the other.
> But it cannot be inferred the other way round, since it has been
> mentioned that the tree-tag is not made for non-trees like
> "trees=banana_plants", "trees=strawberries" or "trees=oil_palms".
> (Even though it is currently used and documented that way, which makes
> its usage even more problematic because the documentation itself
> promotes misusage of the tag - perhaps in lack of a good alternative?).
> Tobias
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