[Tagging] war_memorial

[Warin]

On 04-Oct-17 12:00 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
> <graemefitz1 at gmail.com <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     Question on memorials v monuments thanks.
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>     How about a memorial arboretum
>     (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arboretum
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arboretum>), a commemorative
>     planted grove of trees that you can walk through & sit under?
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>     Does that count as a monument, or is it a memorial?
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> ​As I read wiki.osm, both historic=memorial and historic=monument are 
> presumed man-made structures, with the latter reserved for that which 
> is truly "'monumental' in size".  Neither would apply to an Arboretum 
> (even though it's an unnatural landscape on monumental scale, it's not 
> a structure).  (FWIW, xref there includes man_made=obelisk and 
> memorial=stele )
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> It sounds like the wiki expects us to find the plaque or stele etc 
> inside the memorial arboretum and tag it as the historic=memorial, 
> memorial=plaque, etc. and only tag an area thus if the monumental 
> structure has outline worth outlining as closed area way.
>
> ​This memorial park http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29743732 is not 
> an arboretum, AFAIK, although some of the trees may have been planted 
> trees, it's not about the trees.  Unless I find a plaque or other 
> marker, the wiki is not encouraging use of either memorial or 
> monument, although memorial:conflict=WW1 could apply.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmonument
> ​http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmemorial​
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> ​More info on my Memorial Park area 
> http://fd.ema.arrl.org/SiteDetail.php?site=MemPk ​
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Memorial avenues exist - roads with tress planted alongside to remember 
the dead usually from wars.
See http://www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep-reg/place-lieu.aspx?id=13557
No OSM taggging other than a road in OSM

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/280394066

Each tree usually commemorates one person, the tree signifies the 
victory of life over death.
While there may a be a plaque - it is the tree that forms the memorial 
for that person.
The collection of trees form a memorial to the war dead as a collective.

I have not tagged them...

Some more info? 
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/about/environment/protecting-heritage/remembrance-driveway/history/index.html

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I think a memorial rather than a monument. But I am not pedantic about it.

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