[Tagging] building=stands or building=grandstand?

[Warin]

Tom - don't think I'm attacking you personally.
Just trying to get good practices for myself.

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On 28-Oct-17 10:04 AM, Marco Boeringa wrote:
> Warin,
>
> Tom did not totally remove the reference to "building=stands", it is 
> listed as discouraged on the new "building=grandstand" Wiki page.
>
> As to "building=grandstand", although undocumented, I have seen this 
> used on exactly the type of structure Tom included. Of course, the 
> difference as to what constitutes a full stadium and / or just a 
> grandstand is a bit vague, and users to some extent use them 
> interchangeably. But in general, I have seen two uses:
>
> - Used on a single "building=grandstand" that was the only feature 
> around a playing field
>
> - Used on individual sections of a full concentric "building=stadium", 
> or multiple disjunct "building=grandstand" features surrounding the 
> playing field.

Possibly 'stadium' needs to be resolved with 'grandstand'.
If the 'stadium' is simple a joined 'grandstand' them possibly 'stadium' 
needs to be discouraged?

Humm
The 'stadium' wikipedia definition includes the playing area (the 
pitch/track) so it is not just a building.
My dictionary says it even includes the parking area. Another reason to 
discourage 'stadium'.

>
> As I wrote in my first post, the tag itself is at least 4 years old, 
> and maybe much longer. Just needed documentation, as Tom now did. 
> Thanks Tom!
>
> *** Tom, just one other remark:***
>
> In the "Tagging mistakes" section, you referenced "building=stand", 
> which also exists according to the TagInfo table next to it, but the 
> original new tag I saw was "building=stands(!)" so plural 
> (https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=building%3Dstands). I 
> think you need to include this second discouraged tag as well... 
> Currently, "building=stands" has even more uses (244) then 
> "building=stand" (85)
And possibly now "building=stadium"?
>
> Marco
>
>
> Op 27-10-2017 om 23:53 schreef Warin:
>> On 28-Oct-17 08:18 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
>>> On 27.10.2017 22:16, Warin wrote:
>>>>>> discouraging the new tag preferably, 
>>>>> done
>>>> Object.
>>>> No contact with mappers using that value.
>>>
>>> The usage was discouraged for this purpose, neither forbidden nor 
>>> deprecated.
>>> No tagging in the database was changed (by myself).
>>
>> Yet the wiki reference was totally removed from the wiki.
>> I think leaving the mention of it on the wiki, but putting a line 
>> through it and placing comments on the wiki discussion page would be 
>> better way of discouragement. That is the way I have seen it done for 
>> discouragement in the past.
>> I think the removal may be provocation to an edit war?
>>
>> Before the removal it said ...
>> "A big tribunes. " and showed the same photo as stadium.
>> So possibly 'stands' is 'stadium' rather than 'grandstand'.
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