[Tagging] Can OSM become a geospacial database?

Eugene Podshivalov yaugenka at gmail.com
Thu Dec 6 10:01:57 UTC 2018


description - is used for other purposes already - it lets you describe an
object in free manner which can be several sentances long.

чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 12:50, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>:

> On 06/12/18 20:25, Eugene Podshivalov wrote:
>
> Let me clarify the meaning of those Russian words
> "пруд" - is usually a natural but modified by a man body of water which is
> smaller than lake. this is usually translated as "pond"
> "копанка" - is a very small body of water, escavated by an individual
> family for private fishing, usually of a square shape about 10x20 meters in
> size.
>
> Making additional subcategories makes sense only when they are commonly
> recognized.
> Adding language sepecific tag would work better here in my mind:
> water=pond + water:ru=копанка
> this way we preserve the generic categorization and let it be expanded for
> local purpose.
>
> With regards to "озеро" (lake) it is even more complecated. In Russian we
> may call "озеро" both natural and man-modified bodies of water.
> So both water=lake and water=pond can be called "озеро".
> The afore-mentioned solution could solve it:
> water=lake + water:ru=озеро
> water=pond + water:ru=озеро
>
> Another solution as suggested in the original post is to introduce some
> generic (category independent) tag like "name:prefix/postfix" or
> "type:<lang>" etc. for such things.
>
>
> Please.. not 'type'.
>
> How about using 'description' ...
> description:ru=копанка
> description:ru=пруд
> description:ru=озеро
>
> ???
>
>
> чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 04:17, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
>> >:
>> For example, in America we can call a waterway=stream a “brook”, “creek”,
>> “run” and several other things. These waterways will be tagged
>> waterway=stream or =river (depending on size) with name=“Bull Run”,
>> =“Walker Creek”, =“Johnson’s Brook”, etc.
>> We don’t use waterway=creek or waterway=run because there is no
>> consistent difference between these. In fact in Standard British English a
>> Creek is often a tidal channel in a salt marsh or mangroves.
>
> If you put “brook”, “creek”, “run” etc. in the name field you will
> get tautology in search results like: "stream Blue creek". So either all
> objects should have their category in the name field and the search engine
> will not add anything or no objects should have category in the name fields
> and the search engine will take the category from some other field and
> append it to name.
> E.g. assume you have name=Blue + waterway=stream + waterway:en=creek, you
> search for "Blue" and get "Blue creek".
>
> чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 10:26, Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com>:
>
>> Thanks, Michal. Following that link led me to:
>>
>> shop=butcher + butcher=pork
>>
>> which specifically mentions charcuterie. Presumably covers this too.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:18 AM Michal Fabík <michal.fabik at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:03 PM Sergio Manzi <smz at smz.it> wrote:
>>> > I have the same problem for some shop categories which are not part of
>>> the US/UK tradition: an Italian "salumeria" [1] is in no way similar to a
>>> US "deli" shop...
>>>
>>> Hi, the wiki specifically mentions this and suggests a different way
>>> of tagging American delis:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Ddeli
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michal Fabík
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